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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 3556454" data-attributes="member: 8439">I disagree, this sounds like more of a description of a passive CE who hasn't worked up the nerve to risk retaliation with active evil.A CN individual is no more likely to pursue their own interest at the expense of someone else's, imo, than a LN or TN individual. Chaos is not some sort of Evil Light (just 5 calories, not evil enough!) it is, by D&D definition, an allignment on a completely different scale from good and evil.Also, I don't see chaotic individuals as having trouble with groups or cooperation - they have problems with heirarchies. A chaotic organization is based on mutual respect (both being respectful of others and respecting others in their core competencies) rather than a set structure. A CN person can easily take direction from someone who they believe understands what needs to be done better than they do, or someone who is temporarily taking a coordinating role. They will be harder pressed to take orders, though the line between a direction and an order may be entirely one of feel.In the STAP game I play, there was a conflict between a highly chaotic (planarly chaotic in fact) PC and a lawful PC who had taken the role of ship's captain, in which the distinction between directions and orders, and the need for a coordinator vs the need for a "boss" featured heavily.</blockquote>