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Can you help me to determine what alignment is this?
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<blockquote data-quote="James the Newbie" data-source="post: 5999166" data-attributes="member: 6692006"><p>He puts others before himself, but only if he is close to them. This while lawful is also good in nature. To always put others before yourself, is something good.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Here he is shown to be loving, and critical of others who are not so kind, and at the same time, not zealous or overbearing in trying to controll those close to him</p><p></p><p>' </p><p></p><p>He dislikes those above him, certainly not nice, a loathing that would push someone towards evil, but no one likes their bosses, or giving someone something they worked hard for</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is a roundabout justification for his goals. in this sentence here he wants power and wants it for the right reasons, while it could be good, I would say it is neutral due to the rest of what is written.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is not good or evil, its apathetic and neutral by nature, but advances the idea of his lawfulness.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>He is lawful, but not bound fully by the rules, being secretive is slightly chaotic by nature, but an alignment is not a straight jacket and he is still lawful.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>To seize all power is defiantly on the evil scale, it depends what he means by all power, since if he wants it on a global scale it is quite evil, if he wants to politically controll what is already 'rightfully' theirs it is neutral or even good, if he truly does it as it is easier to protect the peasents.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>In D&D war is shakey grounds, and this here is a sentence about war. Wars are bad or worse, and only ever fought for a great goal, if he was willing to kill innocents who stood in his path, this would push him to the evil alignment, if on the other hand, he would kill the nobels guards and take controll violently, and for good cause, it could be justified quite easily as a neutral action, even performed by a good person.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>These are the words of a zelous person, he is being an extremist here, and extremism can often be perceived as quite an evil thing. If he wants power just due to his brotherhoods rules, then I would argue he is evil, and should probably be played with a low wisdom score. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is less like sticking to his rules and back to the idea of loving his brothers and wanting to protect those close to him, so it could be covered under lawful but I would call it good.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>After splitting the text up a bit and thinking about it part by part, I would cover him under lawful evil, if he wants power for the sake of power, and willing to mow down innocents and take away their freedom. Or if he is so willing to stick to his guidelines he will forget about his goals (in which case he should also have a low wisdom)</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if he simply feels pushed around, that war is brewing, and that his brothers and other good honest men are being beaten down and pushed around by nobles, rising up and saving the poor and the downtrodden friends of his, that's much more into the Good territory.</p><p></p><p>If he is between the two, neutral. Since he wants to minimize the damage, you could always play him as neutral, and dip him into the evil alignment if he starts to harm innocents through character development. Which is probably what I would do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James the Newbie, post: 5999166, member: 6692006"] He puts others before himself, but only if he is close to them. This while lawful is also good in nature. To always put others before yourself, is something good. Here he is shown to be loving, and critical of others who are not so kind, and at the same time, not zealous or overbearing in trying to controll those close to him ' He dislikes those above him, certainly not nice, a loathing that would push someone towards evil, but no one likes their bosses, or giving someone something they worked hard for This is a roundabout justification for his goals. in this sentence here he wants power and wants it for the right reasons, while it could be good, I would say it is neutral due to the rest of what is written. This is not good or evil, its apathetic and neutral by nature, but advances the idea of his lawfulness. He is lawful, but not bound fully by the rules, being secretive is slightly chaotic by nature, but an alignment is not a straight jacket and he is still lawful. To seize all power is defiantly on the evil scale, it depends what he means by all power, since if he wants it on a global scale it is quite evil, if he wants to politically controll what is already 'rightfully' theirs it is neutral or even good, if he truly does it as it is easier to protect the peasents. In D&D war is shakey grounds, and this here is a sentence about war. Wars are bad or worse, and only ever fought for a great goal, if he was willing to kill innocents who stood in his path, this would push him to the evil alignment, if on the other hand, he would kill the nobels guards and take controll violently, and for good cause, it could be justified quite easily as a neutral action, even performed by a good person. These are the words of a zelous person, he is being an extremist here, and extremism can often be perceived as quite an evil thing. If he wants power just due to his brotherhoods rules, then I would argue he is evil, and should probably be played with a low wisdom score. This is less like sticking to his rules and back to the idea of loving his brothers and wanting to protect those close to him, so it could be covered under lawful but I would call it good. After splitting the text up a bit and thinking about it part by part, I would cover him under lawful evil, if he wants power for the sake of power, and willing to mow down innocents and take away their freedom. Or if he is so willing to stick to his guidelines he will forget about his goals (in which case he should also have a low wisdom) On the other hand, if he simply feels pushed around, that war is brewing, and that his brothers and other good honest men are being beaten down and pushed around by nobles, rising up and saving the poor and the downtrodden friends of his, that's much more into the Good territory. If he is between the two, neutral. Since he wants to minimize the damage, you could always play him as neutral, and dip him into the evil alignment if he starts to harm innocents through character development. Which is probably what I would do. [/QUOTE]
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