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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 5147933" data-attributes="member: 70267">If that was what this thread was about, sure, I'd agree with you. It isn't. It is a *rules* question about a player trying to wring the most out of his feat. And I tried to come at it from a fluff or a gameplay side. At its core, the problem is that a player took a very powerful feat that has a cost associated with it (stun when you damage a bloodied creature) and would like to do everything in his power to eliminate that cost. It sounds to me like the player is not struggling with being a pacifist, he's struggling with the rules constraints placed on him by taking a powerful feat. A player struggling with being a pacifist would be:- A powerful demon captures his party members and requires him to face somone in arena combat to win their freedom.- Standing behind a weak enemy about to slit the throat of an innocent person.- A twisting of a vow forces a choice between loyalties (I vow to serve you, Duke Liarton of Dishonestyville). Those are interesting. This feat and its interactions (and I maintain that summoning a *weapon* is incongruous) are about as interesting as a player with Weapon Focus (Flails) Finding a magic dagger. Not at all. Jay</blockquote>