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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5426611" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>All of your considerations don´t take into account, that the attacked target can close his eyes and render himself helpless to negate all the penalties someone impose on himself to miss.</p><p></p><p>But actually, using spiritual weapon just to grant combat advantage is not really overpowered.</p><p></p><p>And band of fellows, when you look at it can be a funny power. Imagine how manyy tales are told about the fight, where willy the warlord was so incompetent and bob the barbarian and richard the rogue.</p><p></p><p>And all in all, it is only 1 base attack more than a normal walord at-will would grant.</p><p>Take into account, that reliable powers with no miss effect are not that great:</p><p></p><p>lets look at brute strike:</p><p></p><p>hit 3w damage. cool. this results in 3w+modifier damage/2 damage per round if you miss at first round and hit on the second.</p><p></p><p>If you use a non reliable 3w power you deal 3w/2 modifier in the first round, and maybe you even have an effect already. If you hit with your regular at will on the second round, you deal 1w+modifier damage. Half w less, half modifier more and your at will usually has an aditional effect on a hit.</p><p></p><p>So what does brute stike offer? the feeling you did not waste your daily. So i believe reliable powers actually need an effect that makes them somewhat worthwhile. (If band of followers was hit: 2w damage, effect: 1 base attack, it would be a little bit better than the regular warlord at-will that grants basic attack with +int to damage. With a hit resulting in a nice "dual attack")</p><p></p><p>Make it:</p><p></p><p>hit: 2w+str. 2 allys make a basic attack.</p><p>miss: 1 ally may make a basic attack</p><p></p><p>reliable and you are certainly on realistic things that a leader daily at that level may do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 5426611, member: 59057"] All of your considerations don´t take into account, that the attacked target can close his eyes and render himself helpless to negate all the penalties someone impose on himself to miss. But actually, using spiritual weapon just to grant combat advantage is not really overpowered. And band of fellows, when you look at it can be a funny power. Imagine how manyy tales are told about the fight, where willy the warlord was so incompetent and bob the barbarian and richard the rogue. And all in all, it is only 1 base attack more than a normal walord at-will would grant. Take into account, that reliable powers with no miss effect are not that great: lets look at brute strike: hit 3w damage. cool. this results in 3w+modifier damage/2 damage per round if you miss at first round and hit on the second. If you use a non reliable 3w power you deal 3w/2 modifier in the first round, and maybe you even have an effect already. If you hit with your regular at will on the second round, you deal 1w+modifier damage. Half w less, half modifier more and your at will usually has an aditional effect on a hit. So what does brute stike offer? the feeling you did not waste your daily. So i believe reliable powers actually need an effect that makes them somewhat worthwhile. (If band of followers was hit: 2w damage, effect: 1 base attack, it would be a little bit better than the regular warlord at-will that grants basic attack with +int to damage. With a hit resulting in a nice "dual attack") Make it: hit: 2w+str. 2 allys make a basic attack. miss: 1 ally may make a basic attack reliable and you are certainly on realistic things that a leader daily at that level may do. [/QUOTE]
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