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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ForbidenMaster" data-source="post: 4315734" data-attributes="member: 63213">No, the rules dont say that.  The rules say that you gain combat advantage against an enemy that isnt aware of you.Also, one must make the distinction between moving stealthy and hiding.  If the goal is to hide, then you are doing that action stealthily.  If you just want to move stealthily, then your above scenario would be in play.  Think of it as the difference between move silently and hide in 3.5.  Personally, I think that both can be applied in the same role.  If you wish to hide you must escape notice and get to a hiding place.  In order to do that you must move stealthily.  If you want you could roll them as separate checks, but personally I think that its simpler to just use one roll for both the escaping notice by moving to a hiding spot, and then attempting to continue to avoid notice.I would rule that you couldnt become stealth in your current square because you cant escape notice.  If there was another piece of cover near you then you could attempt to escape notice and move there, essentially causing your target to think you are still in the old square.Essentially I have been ruling it that if you are unhidden you must move to another square to become hidden.  You make one stealth roll and that determins your ability to escape notice that you are moving to a new square, and your ability to hide in that new square.</blockquote>