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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1640390" data-attributes="member: 1656">The Rapid Shot penalty definitely applies to every attack in a round.Two-Weapon Fighting gets... murky.It never specifically states that the penalties apply to every attack made in a round; it says the penalties apply when you are 'fighting this way'.I, and a lot of other people who've taken part in such topics before, do apply the penalties to all attacks made in a round, just like Rapid Shot, like Flurry of Blows, and so on.  Some people apply the penalties to all attacks in a Full Attack action, but not to any AoOs or extra attacks made in the same round.  I saw one guy who had a bizarre system where primary attacks could be made with no penalty, until you started 'pairing' off-hand attacks with primary attacks, and at that point the penalties kicked in... and the off-hand attacks started off at the lower iterative bonus (and he was convinced this was strictly RAW...!).To be honest, I wouldn't allow off-hand attacks in the same round you used a two-handed weapon (or claimed benefits for wielding a one-handed weapon in two hands) - including off-hand armor spike attacks.  1.5x Str bonus with primary attacks and .5x Str bonus with off-hand attacks seems to 'break the system' that makes such beautiful, elegant sense under normal circumstances.Otherwise you'll have someone making four iterative attacks with a greataxe at full bonus, who then lets go with his left hand, Quick Draws a dagger, makes three off-hand attacks with TWF penalties, and drops the dagger to regrip his axe for AoOs (or throws it, if he takes the -2 Rapid Shot penalty on all attacks in the round).  Next round, he does the same with a different dagger...They're effectively getting all the benefits of THF with none of the drawbacks (like fewer attacks than a TWFer), and all the benefits of TWF with none of the drawbacks (like penalties and lower base damage on primary attacks)... and that's not right.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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