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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elvinis75" data-source="post: 1645665" data-attributes="member: 4379">Cleave + Great Cleave = one attack with possibility of moreFor example, can I use Cleave to get extra attacks if a Whirlwind Attack kills one of my targets?You can use Cleave only once a round. If you have the Great Cleave feat, however, you can cleave each time you drop an opponent, even when the opponent drops in a Whirlwind Attack. (When a foe drops, resolve the extra cleave attack before finishing the rest of the attack rolls in the Whirlwind Attacks.)Do you have to use the full attack action to get the benefits of the Cleave or Great Cleave feats? I’d say so, since you have to use the full attack action to get more than one attack.No, you don’t have to use the full attack action to get the benefit of either one of these feats. If you have either or both of the feats, you get an extra attack (or possibly extra attacks with Great Cleave) whenever you drop a foe, no matter what type of action you used to drop the foe.It seems clear to me with the above quotes from the FAQ that Great Cleave is a replacement/enhancement effect for cleave.The first line says that cleave is once per round and think that we are all in agreement on that.  The second line tells you that you can “cleave” each time you drop an opponent.  One could try to argue this saying that it doesn’t say that you don’t lose the Cleave ability and that is where the second question comes in.  It states that if you have either or both of the feats you “an” extra attack (Please read singular!!!) then it goes on to say “or possibly extra attacks with Great Cleave (Please read multiple!!!) whenever you drop a foe”.  If both Great Cleave and Cleave trigger as you say that they do then there would an automatic two attacks and thus not “an extra attack”.  The statement either or both is the defining statement here.  The FAQ says that there is no difference between having one or both in getting “an extra attack”.</blockquote>

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