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Can you Quickdraw in the middle of an Attack?
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<blockquote data-quote="Camarath" data-source="post: 1647019" data-attributes="member: 11987"><p>It looks like everyone was right doesn't it? The immedaite impetus for me to ask WotC those questions was Anubis and his comments and the possiblity I might be able to get a muddled and confused responce from WotC CS that stated that one should get two extra attacks. And thus WotC might have suggested what I have not that one should play as I am asserting the rules are written.</p><p></p><p>My point was that the phrase "This feat works like Cleave" means that Great Cleave works as a spearate ability rather than by altering Cleave which means that you have two feats that have the same fuction except for the stated diferance. No one has as of yet proven that this is not so. Hypersmurf has stated that you can not take two immedate extra attacks because you if take one the other ceases to be immedate and thus can not be used and that you may not make immedate attack at the same time but I have not seen rule support for either opinion. </p><p> I think I can make very much the same point with definition 4a. The only deference is it would then be base on time rather than position or causative factor. That means they we would have to argee on if two actions can happen at the same time ingame and if AoO takes up time ingame. Here is a rewrite of my previous post using the more appropriate definition (the definition I was using might work it you of the game as a command queue or string) and assuming that both immediate extra attacks and AoO take up ingame time.</p><p></p><p>Immediate means "occurring, acting, or accomplished without loss or interval of time ". If an AoO interposes itself between the action which triggers an immediate attack and the immediate attack itself the immediate attack ceases to be immediate because it is not happening with out without loss of time. As far as I can see the source of the loss not seem to be factor in whether or not something is to be considered immediate or not.</p><p></p><p> This will not affect the way I play the game one bit. And I will still argue about what the PHB actually says with people if they want but I have known and stated all along that this is what WotC meant (and the way I play). My point has been that they failed to state what they meant in the feat and what they stated actually means something else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Camarath, post: 1647019, member: 11987"] It looks like everyone was right doesn't it? The immedaite impetus for me to ask WotC those questions was Anubis and his comments and the possiblity I might be able to get a muddled and confused responce from WotC CS that stated that one should get two extra attacks. And thus WotC might have suggested what I have not that one should play as I am asserting the rules are written. My point was that the phrase "This feat works like Cleave" means that Great Cleave works as a spearate ability rather than by altering Cleave which means that you have two feats that have the same fuction except for the stated diferance. No one has as of yet proven that this is not so. Hypersmurf has stated that you can not take two immedate extra attacks because you if take one the other ceases to be immedate and thus can not be used and that you may not make immedate attack at the same time but I have not seen rule support for either opinion. I think I can make very much the same point with definition 4a. The only deference is it would then be base on time rather than position or causative factor. That means they we would have to argee on if two actions can happen at the same time ingame and if AoO takes up time ingame. Here is a rewrite of my previous post using the more appropriate definition (the definition I was using might work it you of the game as a command queue or string) and assuming that both immediate extra attacks and AoO take up ingame time. Immediate means "occurring, acting, or accomplished without loss or interval of time ". If an AoO interposes itself between the action which triggers an immediate attack and the immediate attack itself the immediate attack ceases to be immediate because it is not happening with out without loss of time. As far as I can see the source of the loss not seem to be factor in whether or not something is to be considered immediate or not. This will not affect the way I play the game one bit. And I will still argue about what the PHB actually says with people if they want but I have known and stated all along that this is what WotC meant (and the way I play). My point has been that they failed to state what they meant in the feat and what they stated actually means something else. [/QUOTE]
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