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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6112104" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Per the rules, I believe that's legit (but see below). At least, provided you know the Rogue is there somewhere. If you're unaware of his existence, it's hard to see how you can Ready against him without metagaming.</p><p></p><p>However, bear in mind that until the Rogue actually attacks, he remains invisible. What this means is that you have to take your five-foot step 'blind' - the DM should <em>not</em> reveal which square the Rogue is in. And that means that you may very well end up in a square adjacent to the Rogue anyway (in which case, when you fire your bow, he'll get an Attack of Opportunity as well as his regular attack).</p><p></p><p>And, again, until he actually attacks he remains invisible. Which means that if your five foot step <em>does</em> take you out of his reach, <em>he does not become visible</em>.</p><p></p><p>All that said...</p><p></p><p>The five foot step is probably the most abused part of the 3e/PF combat system (and, to a much lesser extent, 4e). Basically, it's an artifact of the battle grid, meant to represent all the minor adjustments that happen in combat - opponents seeking flanking opportunities, or making use of terrain, or the like.</p><p></p><p>It's not really intended for the "step back and cast" routine, or for characters to ready a step to spoil an opponent's attack, or pretty much any of the ways it's <em>actually</em> used. Because if you try something like that in a real fight, you'll just see your opponent step right along with you, and continue hitting you.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, I don't see any good way to actually fix the problem, other than just saying "don't!". There are genuine cases where a five-foot step is indeed required, and nothing else will really do the job (although 4e's approach of making a Shift a Move action goes a long way towards fixing the abuses). But it's never really been a clean bit of the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6112104, member: 22424"] Per the rules, I believe that's legit (but see below). At least, provided you know the Rogue is there somewhere. If you're unaware of his existence, it's hard to see how you can Ready against him without metagaming. However, bear in mind that until the Rogue actually attacks, he remains invisible. What this means is that you have to take your five-foot step 'blind' - the DM should [i]not[/i] reveal which square the Rogue is in. And that means that you may very well end up in a square adjacent to the Rogue anyway (in which case, when you fire your bow, he'll get an Attack of Opportunity as well as his regular attack). And, again, until he actually attacks he remains invisible. Which means that if your five foot step [i]does[/i] take you out of his reach, [i]he does not become visible[/i]. All that said... The five foot step is probably the most abused part of the 3e/PF combat system (and, to a much lesser extent, 4e). Basically, it's an artifact of the battle grid, meant to represent all the minor adjustments that happen in combat - opponents seeking flanking opportunities, or making use of terrain, or the like. It's not really intended for the "step back and cast" routine, or for characters to ready a step to spoil an opponent's attack, or pretty much any of the ways it's [i]actually[/i] used. Because if you try something like that in a real fight, you'll just see your opponent step right along with you, and continue hitting you. Unfortunately, I don't see any good way to actually fix the problem, other than just saying "don't!". There are genuine cases where a five-foot step is indeed required, and nothing else will really do the job (although 4e's approach of making a Shift a Move action goes a long way towards fixing the abuses). But it's never really been a clean bit of the rules. [/QUOTE]
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