Can you remember being charmed?


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Olive said:
I have no idea if the rules cover this, but it seems to come up regularly...

Can any one help?

-- As I understand it, you remember your actions while charmed or even dominated. You don't necessarily realize you were charmed, though I'd give anyone with Spellcraft or Knowledge Arcana a skill check to work it out.

Even without those skills, depending on what you were compelled to do, you might question yourself. This is highly GM-dependent, of course. If someone was charmed or dominated into doing something very unusual or out of character, the odds are pretty decent they'll realize a spell is a potential culprit.

They won't automatically realize it though. A subtle use of that sort of magic could go uncommented on.

There aren't any hard and fast rules for what kind of rolls to make at what DC's though.
 

Olive said:
I have no idea if the rules cover this, but it seems to come up regularly...

Can any one help?

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I believe there is nothing within the charm person spell that explicitly make you forget what's happened to you. There is also nothing that gives a character a means to automatically be aware that they are under the influence of magic.

My ruling would be that it's very much a case of the character thinking back, going over past events and thinking "Hey I was behaving a bit odd then, maybe someone took magical control of me". It may be appropriate to ask the pc to make a wisdom check, with the dc depending on exactly how far they were forced to act out of character by the spell.

Chris
 

CatharticMoment said:
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I believe there is nothing within the charm person spell that explicitly make you forget what's happened to you. There is also nothing that gives a character a means to automatically be aware that they are under the influence of magic.

My ruling would be that it's very much a case of the character thinking back, going over past events and thinking "Hey I was behaving a bit odd then, maybe someone took magical control of me". It may be appropriate to ask the pc to make a wisdom check, with the dc depending on exactly how far they were forced to act out of character by the spell.

Chris

If you succeed on a saving throw, you know something magic just tried to affect you. If you fail the save, it is undefined. In the case of dominate, it is clear that you were just used as a puppet. In the case of charm, it depends on how you were charmed and why you did, I suppose. If some one comes up to you, buys you a drink, and you become friends, you might just pass it off as that. In most other cases, I would say you quickly realize you have been manipulated and resent it.
 

I'd basically rule that if it is within the characters normal realm of action they wouldn't think twice about it. In Star Wars the guards that "decided" these weren't the droids they were looking for would most likely have passed up hundreds of droids that day. The fact that he quickly passed these by rather than checking registration probably wouldn't phase him.

Someone who was charmed into holding back his allies so his "new friend" can escape would definitely think that was odd.

Also you must consider the prevalence of magic in your world. If magic is rare people may quesiton themselves, but won't think they were charmed. If magic is common they may assume they were charmed immediately.
 

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