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Can you retrain class features? Would doing so be unbalancing?
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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 4408408" data-attributes="member: 807"><p>Are you missing something? no</p><p>Would it be unbalancing? possibly or possibly not</p><p>Would it cause disruption? probably</p><p>would i personally allow that in my games? no</p><p></p><p>the build options mainly are there for focus of direction for the pc. some also have built-in mechanics (like warlock builds, ranger builds, wizard implements, etc)</p><p></p><p>as you said, ability scores wouldn't change so the pc wouldn't be "optimized" for the new role. but it does add some unintended party chaos. different builds have different tactical strengths (a two-weapon ranger vs. an archer ranger; or the various implement wizards, etc). so as the party is learning to work tactically together, one of them would be changing which basically screws up any unconcious (or concious) teamwork they were doing.</p><p></p><p>it may also end up with some wierd situations where you got some powers that work (or work better) under one build option but now you're the other build option so some of your powers wouldn't work at all (or be severly gimped). Would you also be letting them swap out powers that no longer work for them at the same time as changing builds? If so, they are changing 2 or more things at one time.</p><p></p><p>also (this is pure personal opinion at this point) some of those build changes are drastic, changing the 'tone' of the character. at what point does the character stop being the same (other than the name at the top of the character sheet).</p><p></p><p></p><p>having said all that, if you and your players are okay with that, then, really, no "harm" would be done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fba827, post: 4408408, member: 807"] Are you missing something? no Would it be unbalancing? possibly or possibly not Would it cause disruption? probably would i personally allow that in my games? no the build options mainly are there for focus of direction for the pc. some also have built-in mechanics (like warlock builds, ranger builds, wizard implements, etc) as you said, ability scores wouldn't change so the pc wouldn't be "optimized" for the new role. but it does add some unintended party chaos. different builds have different tactical strengths (a two-weapon ranger vs. an archer ranger; or the various implement wizards, etc). so as the party is learning to work tactically together, one of them would be changing which basically screws up any unconcious (or concious) teamwork they were doing. it may also end up with some wierd situations where you got some powers that work (or work better) under one build option but now you're the other build option so some of your powers wouldn't work at all (or be severly gimped). Would you also be letting them swap out powers that no longer work for them at the same time as changing builds? If so, they are changing 2 or more things at one time. also (this is pure personal opinion at this point) some of those build changes are drastic, changing the 'tone' of the character. at what point does the character stop being the same (other than the name at the top of the character sheet). having said all that, if you and your players are okay with that, then, really, no "harm" would be done. [/QUOTE]
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