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<blockquote data-quote="jamesmanhattan" data-source="post: 6370744" data-attributes="member: 75838">Thanks, that makes sense and is easy. It seems there is a huge variance from individuals in answers to this.I looked in the PHB at climbing, they make no mention of &quot;if you fail a&nbsp; climb check by 5 or more, you fall&quot;. However, there is that line in the&nbsp; Starter Set adventure on one of the walls. It looks like skill checks&nbsp; are just really left to the DM or the adventure designer. They really did leave it all up to the situation. Guidelines,&nbsp; which often become &quot;hard and fast rules&quot;, are left out of the PHB. Thanks&nbsp; for the answers. I think if it is ever not specified I will simply use&nbsp; &quot;You can retry. Which takes 20 times as long. If you fail by 5 or more something bad happens, lock&nbsp; jams and must be approached differently, you fall,&nbsp; etc.&quot; Hopefully adventures are written to not include too many boring old locked doors, and the only climb checks I'll ask for are on dangerous old crumbly walls above spikes, not plain old stone ones.Maybe the DMG will have more answers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jamesmanhattan, post: 6370744, member: 75838"] Thanks, that makes sense and is easy. It seems there is a huge variance from individuals in answers to this. I looked in the PHB at climbing, they make no mention of "if you fail a climb check by 5 or more, you fall". However, there is that line in the Starter Set adventure on one of the walls. It looks like skill checks are just really left to the DM or the adventure designer. They really did leave it all up to the [I]situation[/I]. Guidelines, which often become "hard and fast rules", are left out of the PHB. Thanks for the answers. I think if it is ever not specified I will simply use "You can retry. Which takes 20 times as long. If you fail by 5 or more something bad happens, lock jams and must be approached differently, you fall, etc." Hopefully adventures are written to not include too many boring old locked doors, and the only climb checks I'll ask for are on dangerous old crumbly walls above spikes, not plain old stone ones. Maybe the DMG will have more answers. [/QUOTE]

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