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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6351422" data-attributes="member: 177">Er.  Fact?  "Innocent until proven guilty," is a pretty important cornerstone of our justice system.  It isn't perfect, but the known alternatives are worse.  So, I don't think it is washing away anything to stick by that, recognize how little we in the public at large know as fact about what really happened, and acknowledge there are other possibilities.  Folks may frequently state that position poorly, but not accepting the abuse as "fact" should still be okay.To be clear - I don't think I've seen a Woody Allen movie in decades.  I really don't care about the guy one way or the other.  I've read little, if any, of MZB's work.  I speak here only in terms of the ethics - MZB and Allen are accused, but not convicted.  It is not unethical to treat them as if they were not guilty.</blockquote>