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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8267587" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>It's a massive deal.</p><p></p><p>Encounters per character level</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Level / CR</th><th>CR Exp.</th><th>Exp. per Player</th><th>Exp. for next Level</th><th>Exp. to next Level</th><th>Encounters to next Level (Raw)</th><th>Daily Exp. Budget</th><th>Encounters Per Day</th><th>Days to Level</th></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>200</td><td>50</td><td>300</td><td>300</td><td>6</td><td>1200</td><td>6</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>450</td><td>112.5</td><td>900</td><td>600</td><td>5.33</td><td>2400</td><td>5.33</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>700</td><td>175</td><td>2,700</td><td>1,800</td><td>10.28</td><td>4,800</td><td>6.86</td><td>1.50</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>1,100</td><td>275</td><td>6,500</td><td>3,800</td><td>13.87</td><td>6,800</td><td>6.18</td><td>2.24</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>1,500</td><td>375</td><td>14,000</td><td>7,500</td><td>13.04</td><td>14,000</td><td>9.33</td><td>1.40</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>2,300</td><td>575</td><td>23,000</td><td>9,000</td><td>15.65</td><td>16,000</td><td>6.96</td><td>2.25</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>2,900</td><td>725</td><td>34,000</td><td>11,000</td><td>15.17</td><td>20,000</td><td>6.90</td><td>2.20</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>3,900</td><td>975</td><td>48,000</td><td>14,000</td><td>14.36</td><td>24,000</td><td>6.15</td><td>2.33</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>5,000</td><td>1,250</td><td>64,000</td><td>16,000</td><td>12.5</td><td>30,000</td><td>6</td><td>2.08</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>5,900</td><td>1,475</td><td>85,000</td><td>21,000</td><td>14.24</td><td>36,000</td><td>6.10</td><td>2.33</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>7,200</td><td>1,800</td><td>100,000</td><td>15,000</td><td>8.33</td><td>42,000</td><td>5.83</td><td>1.42</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>8,400</td><td>2,100</td><td>120,000</td><td>20,000</td><td>9.52</td><td>46,000</td><td>5.48</td><td>1.74</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>10,000</td><td>2,500</td><td>140,000</td><td>20,000</td><td>8</td><td>54,000</td><td>5.4</td><td>1.48</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>11,500</td><td>2875</td><td>165,000</td><td>25,000</td><td>8.69</td><td>60,000</td><td>5.22</td><td>1.66</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>13,000</td><td>3,250</td><td>195,000</td><td>30,000</td><td>9.23</td><td>72,000</td><td>5.54</td><td>1.67</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>15,000</td><td>3,750</td><td>225,000</td><td>30,000</td><td>8</td><td>80,000</td><td>5.33</td><td>1.50</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>18,000</td><td>4,500</td><td>265,000</td><td>40,000</td><td>8.89</td><td>100,000</td><td>5.56</td><td>1.60</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>20,000</td><td>5,000</td><td>305,000</td><td>40,000</td><td>8</td><td>108,000</td><td>5.4</td><td>1.48</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>22,000</td><td>5,500</td><td>355,000</td><td>50,000</td><td>9.09</td><td>120,000</td><td>5.45</td><td>1.67</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>25,000</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>120,000</td><td>4.8</td><td>-</td></tr></table><p></p><p>Going by the daily XP/ Adventuring day/ Encounter budget, the Sorlock (2/3) is around <strong>30 </strong>encounters away from 7th level and access to 3rd level spells.</p><p></p><p>That's 30 encounters he has to sit there watching his 'true' Sorcerer 5 buddy tossing out big boy spells like <em>Fireballs, Hastes, Counterspell</em>s and <em>Flying</em>, while relying on 'pew pew' with Eldritch Blast/ Repelling blast.</p><p></p><p>And when he finally catches up? His single classed Sorcerer buddy now has access to 4th level spells like <em>Polymorph, Banishment, Dimension door</em> and <em>Greater Invis.</em></p><p></p><p>The Sorlock will eventually get access to those spells, but only after another 30 or so encounters more.</p><p></p><p>What price do you want to put on a slightly better at will cantrip? Because the price you're paying is delaying access to 'I win' spells that totally change the course of an encounter for several lengthy game sessions.</p><p></p><p>Sorlocks are one of those things that look good with single target DPR at high (15th+) levels (when you can afford to spam quickened eldritch blasts each round).</p><p></p><p>They completely miss the fact that full casters gain more power by getting access to higher level spells as early as possible, and using those potent spells to turn an encounter on its head in ways that 'single target pew pew' simply does not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8267587, member: 6788736"] It's a massive deal. Encounters per character level [TABLE] [TR] [TH]Level / CR[/TH] [TH]CR Exp.[/TH] [TH]Exp. per Player[/TH] [TH]Exp. for next Level[/TH] [TH]Exp. to next Level[/TH] [TH]Encounters to next Level (Raw)[/TH] [TH]Daily Exp. Budget[/TH] [TH]Encounters Per Day[/TH] [TH]Days to Level[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]200[/TD] [TD]50[/TD] [TD]300[/TD] [TD]300[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]1200[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]450[/TD] [TD]112.5[/TD] [TD]900[/TD] [TD]600[/TD] [TD]5.33[/TD] [TD]2400[/TD] [TD]5.33[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]700[/TD] [TD]175[/TD] [TD]2,700[/TD] [TD]1,800[/TD] [TD]10.28[/TD] [TD]4,800[/TD] [TD]6.86[/TD] [TD]1.50[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]1,100[/TD] [TD]275[/TD] [TD]6,500[/TD] [TD]3,800[/TD] [TD]13.87[/TD] [TD]6,800[/TD] [TD]6.18[/TD] [TD]2.24[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]1,500[/TD] [TD]375[/TD] [TD]14,000[/TD] [TD]7,500[/TD] [TD]13.04[/TD] [TD]14,000[/TD] [TD]9.33[/TD] [TD]1.40[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]2,300[/TD] [TD]575[/TD] [TD]23,000[/TD] [TD]9,000[/TD] [TD]15.65[/TD] [TD]16,000[/TD] [TD]6.96[/TD] [TD]2.25[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]2,900[/TD] [TD]725[/TD] [TD]34,000[/TD] [TD]11,000[/TD] [TD]15.17[/TD] [TD]20,000[/TD] [TD]6.90[/TD] [TD]2.20[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]3,900[/TD] [TD]975[/TD] [TD]48,000[/TD] [TD]14,000[/TD] [TD]14.36[/TD] [TD]24,000[/TD] [TD]6.15[/TD] [TD]2.33[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]5,000[/TD] [TD]1,250[/TD] [TD]64,000[/TD] [TD]16,000[/TD] [TD]12.5[/TD] [TD]30,000[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]2.08[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]5,900[/TD] [TD]1,475[/TD] [TD]85,000[/TD] [TD]21,000[/TD] [TD]14.24[/TD] [TD]36,000[/TD] [TD]6.10[/TD] [TD]2.33[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]11[/TD] [TD]7,200[/TD] [TD]1,800[/TD] [TD]100,000[/TD] [TD]15,000[/TD] [TD]8.33[/TD] [TD]42,000[/TD] [TD]5.83[/TD] [TD]1.42[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]12[/TD] [TD]8,400[/TD] [TD]2,100[/TD] [TD]120,000[/TD] [TD]20,000[/TD] [TD]9.52[/TD] [TD]46,000[/TD] [TD]5.48[/TD] [TD]1.74[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]13[/TD] [TD]10,000[/TD] [TD]2,500[/TD] [TD]140,000[/TD] [TD]20,000[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]54,000[/TD] [TD]5.4[/TD] [TD]1.48[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]14[/TD] [TD]11,500[/TD] [TD]2875[/TD] [TD]165,000[/TD] [TD]25,000[/TD] [TD]8.69[/TD] [TD]60,000[/TD] [TD]5.22[/TD] [TD]1.66[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]15[/TD] [TD]13,000[/TD] [TD]3,250[/TD] [TD]195,000[/TD] [TD]30,000[/TD] [TD]9.23[/TD] [TD]72,000[/TD] [TD]5.54[/TD] [TD]1.67[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]16[/TD] [TD]15,000[/TD] [TD]3,750[/TD] [TD]225,000[/TD] [TD]30,000[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]80,000[/TD] [TD]5.33[/TD] [TD]1.50[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]17[/TD] [TD]18,000[/TD] [TD]4,500[/TD] [TD]265,000[/TD] [TD]40,000[/TD] [TD]8.89[/TD] [TD]100,000[/TD] [TD]5.56[/TD] [TD]1.60[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]18[/TD] [TD]20,000[/TD] [TD]5,000[/TD] [TD]305,000[/TD] [TD]40,000[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]108,000[/TD] [TD]5.4[/TD] [TD]1.48[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]19[/TD] [TD]22,000[/TD] [TD]5,500[/TD] [TD]355,000[/TD] [TD]50,000[/TD] [TD]9.09[/TD] [TD]120,000[/TD] [TD]5.45[/TD] [TD]1.67[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]20[/TD] [TD]25,000[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]120,000[/TD] [TD]4.8[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Going by the daily XP/ Adventuring day/ Encounter budget, the Sorlock (2/3) is around [B]30 [/B]encounters away from 7th level and access to 3rd level spells. That's 30 encounters he has to sit there watching his 'true' Sorcerer 5 buddy tossing out big boy spells like [I]Fireballs, Hastes, Counterspell[/I]s and [I]Flying[/I], while relying on 'pew pew' with Eldritch Blast/ Repelling blast. And when he finally catches up? His single classed Sorcerer buddy now has access to 4th level spells like [I]Polymorph, Banishment, Dimension door[/I] and [I]Greater Invis.[/I] The Sorlock will eventually get access to those spells, but only after another 30 or so encounters more. What price do you want to put on a slightly better at will cantrip? Because the price you're paying is delaying access to 'I win' spells that totally change the course of an encounter for several lengthy game sessions. Sorlocks are one of those things that look good with single target DPR at high (15th+) levels (when you can afford to spam quickened eldritch blasts each round). They completely miss the fact that full casters gain more power by getting access to higher level spells as early as possible, and using those potent spells to turn an encounter on its head in ways that 'single target pew pew' simply does not. [/QUOTE]
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