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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8268860" data-attributes="member: 87792">Because of course neither your basic to hit or damage roll is meaningful and neither is your subclass. Seriously it's far from clear that Sharpshooter is superior to +2 Dex for an archer where that's available. More to hit, more damage, better melee, and better defence, and better skills. Depending on your stat spread Piercer is either amazing or utterly useless.Also I call cherry picking if you're going for archery.But even if we assume you are right then so what? What difference does it actually make? If we assume you are right then 100% of archer fighters have the Sharpshooter feat ASAP (they don't) then<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Without feats at level 4 then 100% of archer fighters have the Archery fighting style and +2 Dex</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">With feats at level 4 according to you then 100% of archer fighters have the Archery fighting style and Sharpshooter.</li> </ul>How is one of these more varied than the other? Except in that the sharpshooter fighter is more different from other fighters than the dex fighter is.In reality however I'd estimate that with feats at level 4 it's more like the following:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">33% of archer fighters have +2 Dex because they are skirmish fighters and know the enemy will get in their face or want to be more flexible</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">33% of archer fighters have Sharpshooter to focus on long range shooting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">16% of archer fighters have Piercer because they had an odd Dex and aren't so worried about secondary stats</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">16% of archer fighters chose another feat </li> </ul>Even if we assume that by level 8 they will all be Dex 20 + Sharpshooter their path will have been different. This believe it or not actually matters.The second thing worth mentioning here is that without feats pre level 11 archer fighters are chumps. The archer ranger gets the archery fighting style, hunter's mark, favoured foe, generally an extra dice of damage from their subclass, and more from their casting.  Each arrow from the archer ranger is going to threaten more damage than the fighter can. Without feats a Dex 16 fighter reaches Dex 20 at level 6 and the Dex ranger reaches Dex 20 at level 8 so there are only two levels in the first 10 where the fighter isn't strictly behind the ranger as an archer. Meanwhile with feats the ranger only reaches Dex 20 Sharpshooter at level 12 so the fighter has combat advantages in the 6-10 range as well as when they get the third arrow at level 11.What did you actually gain? Not all of us take our morals or aesthetics from fictional supervillains. "When everyone is super then no one will be." was the claim of the bad guy. You get to be more effective at what you are supposed to be good at. And you get to play an archer fighter without knowing you've made a chump's choice by not being a ranger.</blockquote>

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