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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8269036" data-attributes="member: 87792">And I missed one major point here.Without feats the only way to specialise in archery as the archer fighter is to take the archery fighting style. All this does is a bland +2 bonus to hit on a d20 roll. In other words out of every ten arrows you fire if you are a specialist archer on average one will hit that would otherwise have missed. Given the variances involved in a d20 roll and how much bounded accuracy narrows the target range (so a first level fighter firing at a CR 17 Adult Red Dragon probably needs a 14 to hit or 12 with the archery style) this doesn't feel meaningfully different from any other Dex based fighter. With just the archery fighting style you are average as a dex based fighter. Typical. Bland. Expected.On the other hand the Sharpshooter fighting style does make a specialist archer meaningfully different from a dex based fighter. So what uniqueness do you get from taking Sharpshooter? It actually makes you into an archery specialist rather than a jack of all trades fighter who isn't much better at archery than any other fighter of the same Dex.This doesn't mean that the regular fighter is bad. But the regular fighter is a jack of all trades. And the fighting styles are pretty bland (+1 to AC?) - the only interesting one that's not just a splash of extra DPR or +1 AC in the PHB is Protection. If you want to play an actual specialist archer fighter without playing an Arcane Archer you want feats.And this for the fighter type that provides the fewest options. Almost the cherry picked one I'd have said.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8269036, member: 87792"] And I missed one major point here. Without feats the only way to specialise in archery as the archer fighter is to take the archery fighting style. All this does is a bland +2 bonus to hit on a d20 roll. In other words out of every ten arrows you fire if you are a specialist archer on average one will hit that would otherwise have missed. Given the variances involved in a d20 roll and how much bounded accuracy narrows the target range (so a first level fighter firing at a CR 17 Adult Red Dragon probably needs a 14 to hit or 12 with the archery style) this doesn't feel meaningfully different from any other Dex based fighter. With just the archery fighting style you are average [I]as a dex based fighter[/I]. Typical. Bland. Expected. On the other hand the Sharpshooter fighting style [I]does [/I]make a specialist archer meaningfully different from a dex based fighter. So what uniqueness do you get from taking Sharpshooter? It actually makes you into an archery specialist rather than a jack of all trades fighter who isn't much better at archery than any other fighter of the same Dex. This doesn't mean that the regular fighter is bad. But the regular fighter is a jack of all trades. And the fighting styles are pretty bland (+1 to AC?) - the only interesting one that's not just a splash of extra DPR or +1 AC in the PHB is Protection. If you want to play an actual specialist archer fighter without playing an Arcane Archer you want feats. And this for the fighter type that provides the fewest options. Almost the cherry picked one I'd have said. [/QUOTE]

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