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Can you shove or grapple a creature that you're riding?
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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 7073082" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>I think a lot of people can't get past the name of the maneuver: "shove".</p><p></p><p>First up: shove can do one of two things - either render a creature prone, or move it 5 feet away from you. Can I imagine someone doing something that would render the creature they are riding prone? Yes. Can I imagine someone doing something to their mount that would move it 5 feet away from them? Sure.</p><p></p><p>Second up: other people are saying that they'd rather the player state their goal and then the DM will adjudicate the action. I guarantee you that in this case if you do that, you'll end up spending your entire turn making a stupid skill-based roll that will most likely fail because you don't have animal handling. Or you'll end up grappling your mount.</p><p></p><p>Saying "I want to shove my mount" is just being precise. You want to spend a single attack from your routine making a specific check in order to have a specific effect. Ideally you'll say "I take the attack action. My first attack is a shove on my mount. '<character name> throws himself to the side while grabbing the wyvern's earhole, attempting to flip it over and render it flightless'", combining the narrative and the action you're taking.</p><p></p><p>As for why you might want to do such a thing to your horse? Nightmares from the MM are a pretty good example.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 7073082, member: 5890"] I think a lot of people can't get past the name of the maneuver: "shove". First up: shove can do one of two things - either render a creature prone, or move it 5 feet away from you. Can I imagine someone doing something that would render the creature they are riding prone? Yes. Can I imagine someone doing something to their mount that would move it 5 feet away from them? Sure. Second up: other people are saying that they'd rather the player state their goal and then the DM will adjudicate the action. I guarantee you that in this case if you do that, you'll end up spending your entire turn making a stupid skill-based roll that will most likely fail because you don't have animal handling. Or you'll end up grappling your mount. Saying "I want to shove my mount" is just being precise. You want to spend a single attack from your routine making a specific check in order to have a specific effect. Ideally you'll say "I take the attack action. My first attack is a shove on my mount. '<character name> throws himself to the side while grabbing the wyvern's earhole, attempting to flip it over and render it flightless'", combining the narrative and the action you're taking. As for why you might want to do such a thing to your horse? Nightmares from the MM are a pretty good example. [/QUOTE]
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