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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3557896" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, you don't set the DC once.  If two people come down the road into my ambush, I make two hide checks, each opposed by individual spot checks.Note, none of this precludes taking 10.  I can certainly take 10 on both hide checks considering that I'm not particularly threatened and have had time to get nicely settled in.I cannot take 20 on opposed rolls since there are consequences of failure (I'm seen).  Similarly, I cannot take 20 early on and store it up.But, taking 10 is no problem.  I'm putting in an average attempt with the assumption that that is good enough.  You can take 10 on most checks really.  There's nothing really preventing me from taking 10 on a disable device check, other than the fact that it might be a really bad idea.Actually, you have not used your hide skill at all.  Hide skills are an opposed check.  Full stop.  What was the DC for your hide check?  To successfully use a skill, you must beat a target DC.Now, it goes on further for opposed checks:So, what was the DC for your hide check?  How can you say that you have successfully used a skill for which there is no DC?If I can hide without a spotter, then I should be able to pick a lock without a lock.  Or use diplomacy by myself.  Without a DC, whether a fixed one or an opposed one, you cannot use a skill.  What you can do is describe your actions and possibly give yourself a circumstance bonus if and when the skill is used, but, you cannot use a skill until such time as you have a target DC.</blockquote>

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