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<blockquote data-quote="TYPO5478" data-source="post: 3566386" data-attributes="member: 37531"><p>Are you using the Bluff skill while sitting at home? If so, then yes, you should absolutely make a Bluff check. But you don't get to make checks unless you're actually using the skill. That's what I'm saying. When you hide, you are using the Hide skill, so you should make a check. When someone tries to see the hidden you, they are using the Spot skill, so they should also make a check. That the rolls are opposed doesn't require them to happen at the same time.</p><p></p><p>You have to reroll because you're <strong>not</strong> performing the same task. You're telling two different lies. Or maybe the same lie to two different people. If you were telling the same lie to the same person, then yes, absolutely keep the original rolls. When you hide, you're not hiding in a different place for each person that might see you; you hide in one place, and as many people as can may attempt to see you. If you try to hide in a different spot later (or if you move and return to the same spot), reroll the check.</p><p></p><p>Seeing as how the rules don't require it, my answer would be no.</p><p></p><p>Please don't misunderstand: I'm not claiming that opposed checks <strong>can't</strong> be simultaneous, just that they <strong>don't have to be</strong>. With a grapple check, it behooves you to oppose immediately because if you don't, your opponent wins.</p><p></p><p>You're not saving up a Hide check. You're not rolling the check when you're <strong>planning</strong> to hide or when you <strong>think you might</strong> need to hide at some point in the future. You roll it <strong>when you hide</strong>. I really don't know how to say it any more clearly. You roll a check when you use a skill, not before, not after. If you're making a Hide check when someone tries to Spot you, it means you're using the Hide skill when someone tries to Spot you. And if they've already Spotted you, you're observed and can't Hide. On the other hand, if you Hide before you're Spotted, you roll the check when you Hide, and anyone looking for you can oppose it with Spot whenever they get a chance.</p><p></p><p>For the last time, taking 10 has nothing to do with the potential for failure. That's taking 20 (and only taking 20).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TYPO5478, post: 3566386, member: 37531"] Are you using the Bluff skill while sitting at home? If so, then yes, you should absolutely make a Bluff check. But you don't get to make checks unless you're actually using the skill. That's what I'm saying. When you hide, you are using the Hide skill, so you should make a check. When someone tries to see the hidden you, they are using the Spot skill, so they should also make a check. That the rolls are opposed doesn't require them to happen at the same time. You have to reroll because you're [B]not[/B] performing the same task. You're telling two different lies. Or maybe the same lie to two different people. If you were telling the same lie to the same person, then yes, absolutely keep the original rolls. When you hide, you're not hiding in a different place for each person that might see you; you hide in one place, and as many people as can may attempt to see you. If you try to hide in a different spot later (or if you move and return to the same spot), reroll the check. Seeing as how the rules don't require it, my answer would be no. Please don't misunderstand: I'm not claiming that opposed checks [B]can't[/B] be simultaneous, just that they [B]don't have to be[/B]. With a grapple check, it behooves you to oppose immediately because if you don't, your opponent wins. You're not saving up a Hide check. You're not rolling the check when you're [B]planning[/B] to hide or when you [B]think you might[/B] need to hide at some point in the future. You roll it [B]when you hide[/B]. I really don't know how to say it any more clearly. You roll a check when you use a skill, not before, not after. If you're making a Hide check when someone tries to Spot you, it means you're using the Hide skill when someone tries to Spot you. And if they've already Spotted you, you're observed and can't Hide. On the other hand, if you Hide before you're Spotted, you roll the check when you Hide, and anyone looking for you can oppose it with Spot whenever they get a chance. For the last time, taking 10 has nothing to do with the potential for failure. That's taking 20 (and only taking 20). [/QUOTE]
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