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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ranes" data-source="post: 3332877" data-attributes="member: 4826">I attempt to hide. You come along and make a spot check. It beats my hide check. I have to take a move action to hide again, from you. Depending on where exactly I'm trying to hide, that doesn't necessarily mean moving from the space I'm in. It might mean I have to turn my toes parallel to the wall against which I'm trying to remain unnoticed. But for now, I'm spotted by you and cannot hide from you until I move.At exactly the same time as you spot me, another door opens to the room we're in. The creature entering the room still has to roll to spot me. Even though we're out of combat, if the DM rules that this new creature has entered the room at exactly the same time as you make your spot check, the creature makes its spot check against the same hide check I just made against you. That check failed to beat your spot check but it might succeed against the newcomer's check.If, on the other hand, the DM rules that the newcomer arrived just after I failed my hide check against you, I would be entitled to a new check against the incoming creature and you! It might be that we all roll skill checks and this time I beat both you and the newcomer. You know where I am but you can't see me any more. Maybe that's down to a subtle change in the lighting as the door opens. Maybe it's because I just turned my toes to be parallel to the wall against which I'm standing and that's enough to conceal me.</blockquote>

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