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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Transit" data-source="post: 2874908" data-attributes="member: 19585">Sean K Reynolds opinion on taking 20 on Hide has always bothered me.Hide is an OPPOSED check made against someone who is actively trying to SPOT you.  That means you can't take twenty because failure would mean that the person you're trying to hide from has seen you.Sean's logic seems to be that by taking 20, one half of the opposed roll can be "pre-rolled" before the opposed check, and therefore there is no chance of failure because no one is trying to spot you yet.   :\ ???(Using the same logic, could a sentry take 20 on a spot check when there is no one around, and then use it later to spot someone who is trying to sneak up on them?  I say no.)If someone takes time to prepare an ambush, I'll give them an appropriate circumstance bonus to their Hide check, but I think the "hide vs spot" opposed check is made at the moment that someone tries to spot them.</blockquote>