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Can you teach someone not to (bad) metagame - (or at least not be rude)
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<blockquote data-quote="grimwell" data-source="post: 3220737" data-attributes="member: 3694"><p>You are incorrect in this, and your other antagonizing posts. When a DM and the vast majority of the players at a game table are in agreement that the actions of one single individual at the table is making the group experience worse, that person is the problem. Not the DM. </p><p></p><p>Call them rules, guidelines, whatever you want -- but the buck stops at the gaming table where this one guy is making the game a pain for everyone else. Bashing the DM who comes here looking for help because you disagree that there is a 'right' way to play is pointless. Yes, in a world of theory there is no 'right way to play' the game. You are 100% correct. Absolutely agree with you that whatever floats an individuals boat is perfectly fine with me.</p><p></p><p>That said, when a players boat floater and a DM's boat floater are in conflict, somethings gotta give. I'm always going to be on the side of the person running the game. It's their table. If you don't like how they run a game you find another table. If, as a DM you find your table empty then you either find new techniques or quit. This guy's metagaming is not welcome at the table, he needs to either adapt his playing style to fit in with what everyone else enjoys, or take a walk if he can't enjoy that. What should not happen is a continuance of the current situation where one person is fouling the experience of four others.</p><p></p><p>My advice, if the guy is a nice guy and it's worth sticking it out while he learns the tables style, have a one on one with him before every game (five minutes of smoking, bs, whatever) to remind him about the table rules. Then go one on one with each disgruntled player and let them know that he's bene talked to and is working on it. Ask them to be tolerant while their friend tries to adapt to the groups style.</p><p></p><p>Adult conversation between adults can get this done over the course of short time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="grimwell, post: 3220737, member: 3694"] You are incorrect in this, and your other antagonizing posts. When a DM and the vast majority of the players at a game table are in agreement that the actions of one single individual at the table is making the group experience worse, that person is the problem. Not the DM. Call them rules, guidelines, whatever you want -- but the buck stops at the gaming table where this one guy is making the game a pain for everyone else. Bashing the DM who comes here looking for help because you disagree that there is a 'right' way to play is pointless. Yes, in a world of theory there is no 'right way to play' the game. You are 100% correct. Absolutely agree with you that whatever floats an individuals boat is perfectly fine with me. That said, when a players boat floater and a DM's boat floater are in conflict, somethings gotta give. I'm always going to be on the side of the person running the game. It's their table. If you don't like how they run a game you find another table. If, as a DM you find your table empty then you either find new techniques or quit. This guy's metagaming is not welcome at the table, he needs to either adapt his playing style to fit in with what everyone else enjoys, or take a walk if he can't enjoy that. What should not happen is a continuance of the current situation where one person is fouling the experience of four others. My advice, if the guy is a nice guy and it's worth sticking it out while he learns the tables style, have a one on one with him before every game (five minutes of smoking, bs, whatever) to remind him about the table rules. Then go one on one with each disgruntled player and let them know that he's bene talked to and is working on it. Ask them to be tolerant while their friend tries to adapt to the groups style. Adult conversation between adults can get this done over the course of short time. [/QUOTE]
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