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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 3221845" data-attributes="member: 22622">There are a couple problems. One is that he is talking as a player not a charachter. His chrachter knows little of divine magic. Second, a lot of these instances happen when the player can not possibly communicate this to the other player. IE he triggered a trap last session and was trapped underneath it for 10 rounds. This was on the third floor. ON the first floor a sceptre was attacking the party. He doesnot say "hey do this". He'll say "oh thats aspectre they do such and such a thing". I take the blame, but in my defense I try to give the players some trust. I have not had a player powergame in so long I didnt even recognize it. Thats my own naivity. OIf you don't know what cats are, how can you make a roll to figure out something is a lion. Essentially he failed his general knowledge of the thing so he can't possibly know specific knowledge of it. This is part of the problem and results to him asking for knowledge roll after knowledge roll. I was responding to the instances of the knowledge check to identify basic animals. At this level, I wave that check because the pcs are experienced adventures. He's annoying the players and slowing the game down. While they're talking he is talking to them, meaning that someones not listening. Worse yet he is commenting to me or someone else. At that point make him roll knowledge rolls to see if he does. That cures the problem right there.This is what I am doing now, and this is what i am tired of doing. Every encounter, on every other round i haveto say you don't know. It's like its not clicking. It got bad because it got to the point where i am not even giving other players any information. Immediately what I decided to do is to ask all knowledge rolls and question be issued to me on paper in game. Thats the thing. I don't like to pull rules out my but. I clearely list in the game's primer what metagaming is. He has admitted to metagaming. We've talked about it and his response is that tendsto be a problem with my charachters. There is no miscommunication on this one. Thats whats boggling me. Me accepting him into the group initially was a peace offering between the previous problem player of mine and myself. After growing extremely tired of a particular problem, I finally laid out that she couldnt return until she figured out how to play well with others. I was a bit mean and hurt her feelings during the conversation. I apologized, we talked, think we came up with a plan so that her charachters wouldn't kill other players, and one of the things she asked for was the meta/power gamer to join the group. We needed a player so i accepted. I'd hate to renig on something without trying my best. Plus the guys a preacher. Do I want that kinda karma <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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