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<blockquote data-quote="General Starlight" data-source="post: 116634" data-attributes="member: 3653"><p><strong>Pesonal ad hoc attacks. The measure of En World?</strong></p><p></p><p>NOTE: (This post replies to a post which has since been edited away).</p><p></p><p> I'm honestly sorry anyone got the impression I was saying I thought I was smarter than they were. I don't think that. Nor was I ever saying anyone here was a simpleton. If you wish to misrepresent what I have said, fine, maybe that's just the sort of person you are. Your POV may even depend on bearing such false witness for all I know, but I didn't say that or anything like that, nor do I think it.</p><p></p><p> I wonder why you somehow translate one possible suggestion to the proposed question about teleportation into such feelings that you were uneducated or unintelligent. I certainly didn't say that, nor do I think it of those who prefer a different approach to gaming. Yet you feel that way? Why? Condescending? I think I'd only be condescending if I felt I had to talk more simplistically for the benefit of those here. That would be really condescending then. Instead, I'm treating everyone here as equals, fully capable of understanding what I'm saying and even following my reasoning, if they wish to read it. Condescending? Get real. And I wasn't the one who started suggesting anyone else's method or approach to gaming was wrong. I said they (some of them, anyway) were less realistic and given to greater inconsistencies. Seems to me they even admit as much themselves. Less realism isn't wrong if that's OK with you and what you want. The point is to have fun, first and foremost. If you enjoy your game, fine. If your co-players enjoy it with you, better. No matter what anyone else thinks, you are doing it correctly if you are all having fun.</p><p></p><p> Telling lies by now saying I actually think everyone should look for better reasons to make their games more 'worthwhile' just isn't going to cut it, either. About the most juvenile thing I've seen here are these personal attacks in an open forum more or less designed to share all sorts of differing points of view. Shard O'Glase, did you even read my posts? Here here, kreynolds? Please. Until hong went off on some WANGER tangent, even his 3rd law wasn't out of line. I don't agree with it or with its underlying philosophy, but that doesn't mean it's intrinsically wrong.</p><p></p><p> You want to say something about my ideas on teleporting, fine, you want to explain to people how you prefer less realism in your games, good, you want to make it clear you honestly find things concerning fantasy and fiction and gaming more enjoyable when you don't think about them too much, great. That's your call. I, for one, won't, and haven't told anyone they are wrong to do this, I didn't say or imply they were uneducated if they liked that approach, or some sort of simpleton if that's their preferred style, or in any other way remiss as roleplayers should they fail to more closely adhere to certain ideals I happen to value. Alas, I can't help what you may infer, but maybe you should check your own character for why you came to such conclusions given what I did say, which thankfully you can reread. So if you want to attack my personal character or insult me, call me names, or go on at length about how my approach to gaming is intrinsically wrong, doesn't belong in fantasy, or some other bit of crap, then I think you're the ones who needs to grow up.</p><p></p><p> Now I want to make it clear most people contributing in this thread haven't really crossed the line for an open forum, IMHO, but some have. If all those people want is one narrow POV to think about, and in fact one that more or less already agrees with their own so they don't have to think about anything new, why are they in an open forum in the first place? I say stow the insults, share your ideas without fear of personal attacks, or En World forums will become nothing more than a place to agree with what's already being said. And what good is that?</p><p></p><p> Jim.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="General Starlight, post: 116634, member: 3653"] [b]Pesonal ad hoc attacks. The measure of En World?[/b] NOTE: (This post replies to a post which has since been edited away). I'm honestly sorry anyone got the impression I was saying I thought I was smarter than they were. I don't think that. Nor was I ever saying anyone here was a simpleton. If you wish to misrepresent what I have said, fine, maybe that's just the sort of person you are. Your POV may even depend on bearing such false witness for all I know, but I didn't say that or anything like that, nor do I think it. I wonder why you somehow translate one possible suggestion to the proposed question about teleportation into such feelings that you were uneducated or unintelligent. I certainly didn't say that, nor do I think it of those who prefer a different approach to gaming. Yet you feel that way? Why? Condescending? I think I'd only be condescending if I felt I had to talk more simplistically for the benefit of those here. That would be really condescending then. Instead, I'm treating everyone here as equals, fully capable of understanding what I'm saying and even following my reasoning, if they wish to read it. Condescending? Get real. And I wasn't the one who started suggesting anyone else's method or approach to gaming was wrong. I said they (some of them, anyway) were less realistic and given to greater inconsistencies. Seems to me they even admit as much themselves. Less realism isn't wrong if that's OK with you and what you want. The point is to have fun, first and foremost. If you enjoy your game, fine. If your co-players enjoy it with you, better. No matter what anyone else thinks, you are doing it correctly if you are all having fun. Telling lies by now saying I actually think everyone should look for better reasons to make their games more 'worthwhile' just isn't going to cut it, either. About the most juvenile thing I've seen here are these personal attacks in an open forum more or less designed to share all sorts of differing points of view. Shard O'Glase, did you even read my posts? Here here, kreynolds? Please. Until hong went off on some WANGER tangent, even his 3rd law wasn't out of line. I don't agree with it or with its underlying philosophy, but that doesn't mean it's intrinsically wrong. You want to say something about my ideas on teleporting, fine, you want to explain to people how you prefer less realism in your games, good, you want to make it clear you honestly find things concerning fantasy and fiction and gaming more enjoyable when you don't think about them too much, great. That's your call. I, for one, won't, and haven't told anyone they are wrong to do this, I didn't say or imply they were uneducated if they liked that approach, or some sort of simpleton if that's their preferred style, or in any other way remiss as roleplayers should they fail to more closely adhere to certain ideals I happen to value. Alas, I can't help what you may infer, but maybe you should check your own character for why you came to such conclusions given what I did say, which thankfully you can reread. So if you want to attack my personal character or insult me, call me names, or go on at length about how my approach to gaming is intrinsically wrong, doesn't belong in fantasy, or some other bit of crap, then I think you're the ones who needs to grow up. Now I want to make it clear most people contributing in this thread haven't really crossed the line for an open forum, IMHO, but some have. If all those people want is one narrow POV to think about, and in fact one that more or less already agrees with their own so they don't have to think about anything new, why are they in an open forum in the first place? I say stow the insults, share your ideas without fear of personal attacks, or En World forums will become nothing more than a place to agree with what's already being said. And what good is that? Jim.:confused: [/QUOTE]
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