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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2764248" data-attributes="member: 707">Actually, it's apples and apples to me.  If you stick the PC to a giant rock, he can't teleport because he'll exceed the weight limits.  If you stick the PC to an unwilling passenger and rule the passenger must be included in the spell, then either the passenger exceeds the spell's limit (if there are then too many people) or makes his save, and prevents the spell from firing.  In either case, you're using the fact that the 'porter is stuck to something to foil the spell.  My ruling is meant to prevent this, because IMO there are too many simple was to get a 'porter stuck.Also note that my primary example, a tanglefoot bag, is almost identical to your situation, because you are literally gluing the 'porter to the floor.  If you can 'port out of a tanglefoot bag, why shouldn't you be able to port away from the NPC?  In both cases you're ruling that the 'porter doesn't have to included the extra glued material, either the NPC--who could make his save or be one too many for the spell--or the floor, which is certainly outside the bounds of the spell's weight limit.It should be noted that suggesting that one might be using a poor tactic is not suggesting one is a bad DM.  I offered my anecdote more as a warning, than as an admonishment.  "Be careful, friend, there are a lot of players, like me, that would find this tactic unpleasant and it would take away from their fun."  I even pointed out that I myself use it sparingly at times, so if I was calling you a poor DM for even mentioning it, I must be calling myself one as well.If I worded it poorly I apologize.  I merely meant to bring to your attention how your plans could play out other than how you envisioned them, for the players at least.This, again, was my point in my above post.  What is humorous to you might not be so to your players.  *shrug*  This is a mistake I've made and later regretted, which is why I found it important to mention.</blockquote>

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