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<blockquote data-quote="Lamoni" data-source="post: 1340938" data-attributes="member: 12680"><p>I would just like to say that I agree with Murrdox. Everyone is trying to strictly use the rules, but most people insert an additional state between prone and standing. There is no "crouching" or anything inbetween in D&D. If you are not standing, you are prone. Therefore, tripping on an AoO means you are tripping them before they are standing. So they are still prone. The result of a trip attack only says that they are prone when you succeed. It doesn't say that they are "sitting", "on their back", "on their face" or any other probable result of a trip. Who's to say that the trip didn't make them prone on one knee or in more of a crouching position? (you are still prone because you can't walk normally).</p><p></p><p>If you just use the rules where there is the state of "prone" and the state of "standing", then you cannot prevent someone from standing with an AoO.</p><p></p><p> That is true if you think about real life... but if you go by the rules, it doesn't speak of how a person is actually situated while prone... only that it is not standing and that it requires a move action of "standing up" to regain "standing" status. I could argue that moving past people who attacked you with normal AoO's would also interrupt the muscular action used to complete the maneuver. However, if the PC is still standing, he can continue his move after the AoO. The same holds true for standing up. If the person used a trip attempt, at the end of the trip attempt, the person would still be prone, which is the only requirement to use the "stand up" move action. so he could continue and be standing at the end of his move action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lamoni, post: 1340938, member: 12680"] I would just like to say that I agree with Murrdox. Everyone is trying to strictly use the rules, but most people insert an additional state between prone and standing. There is no "crouching" or anything inbetween in D&D. If you are not standing, you are prone. Therefore, tripping on an AoO means you are tripping them before they are standing. So they are still prone. The result of a trip attack only says that they are prone when you succeed. It doesn't say that they are "sitting", "on their back", "on their face" or any other probable result of a trip. Who's to say that the trip didn't make them prone on one knee or in more of a crouching position? (you are still prone because you can't walk normally). If you just use the rules where there is the state of "prone" and the state of "standing", then you cannot prevent someone from standing with an AoO. That is true if you think about real life... but if you go by the rules, it doesn't speak of how a person is actually situated while prone... only that it is not standing and that it requires a move action of "standing up" to regain "standing" status. I could argue that moving past people who attacked you with normal AoO's would also interrupt the muscular action used to complete the maneuver. However, if the PC is still standing, he can continue his move after the AoO. The same holds true for standing up. If the person used a trip attempt, at the end of the trip attempt, the person would still be prone, which is the only requirement to use the "stand up" move action. so he could continue and be standing at the end of his move action. [/QUOTE]
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