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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 7868883" data-attributes="member: 6802765">Interesting point. Hmm. I'm not sure there is anywhere to put such an instruction. Maybe in the components line they could have written: "V, S (see text), M (a weapon)"? That might have permitted part of the text of the spell to describe the somatic component as including a melee weapon attack, rather than the text exclusively describing the spell's effect. (I can see that approach creating other problems, however.) But I don't think it's fatal to my argument even if there isn't anywhere to put such an instruction--it would just mean that a spell-specific exception to the Cast a Spell rules can't be expressed in 5e without creating the type of problems we see in Booming Blade.Interesting! So are you saying that the ability to make a melee weapon attack as part of a Cast a Spell action is a result of casting Booming Blade without being an effect of the spell? If so, it seems to me that you're not using the natural language definition of "effect" and are instead assuming a D&D-specific definition. (Which definition is better is up for debate--I'm just pointing out that your reading requires departing from natural language.)I'm not on Twitter, but it would be interesting to see whether JC thinks Counterspell stops the melee weapon attack. If anyone wants to ask, I'd recommend this wording:Is the melee weapon attack required to cast Booming Blade an effect of the spell that would be stopped by a Counterspell? Or can the caster of a counterspelled Booming Blade still make an unenhanced melee weapon attack as part of their Cast a Spell action?EDIT: Nevermind, I should have googled before posting. It's already been asked, and the answer is no, you don't get to make the melee weapon attack: <a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sageadvice.eu/2016/05/22/if-my-green-flame-blade-is-counterspelled-do-i-still-get-to-make-a-normal-melee-attack/amp/" target="_blank">If my Green-Flame Blade is Counterspelled, do I still get to make a normal melee attack</a>.Here I think the rules are very clear: you cannot cast a spell in an Antimagic Field due to the text "Within the sphere, spells can't be cast". The only way to make a melee weapon attack as part of a Cast a Spell action is if you're casting Booming Blade or Greenflame Blade. Since neither spell can be cast in an AMF, the normal rules of Cast a Spell apply, which only permit VSM/F components and not melee weapon attacks.I agree that your proposed wording would have avoided these problems.</blockquote>

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