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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BruntFCA" data-source="post: 4947756" data-attributes="member: 85487">Dual Staff of ruin does not stackNow if you take the "Staff Fighting" feat. You can treat your staff as a double **WEAPON**. Pretty handy for the abilities with the *weapon* keywordFrom what I can see, spells don't carry the "Weapon" Keyword.When you use the staff, you have to choose if are you using it as a weapon (in which case it is in effect a nothing but a double ended *quarterstaff* for melee attacks, or as an implement.To get two implements, you would have to re-write Staff Fighting to say, treat your staff as a double weapon or two as implements.Even if you disregard the above, moreover, you are attacking with 1 Staff (your not a ranger, and your not using them as weapons either), so assuming you have dual implement, you get for example +4 if you are holding two +2 staves, however, the *ruin property* only comes off the particular staff that you are choosing to attack with.For the "double bubble" scenarios to work, you would have to be capable of applying the property of both your main hand and offhand weapon/implements to your attacks. You can't do this, you choose, which one will apply. Just because you dual implement, does not mean that you can concurrently apply, for example, a radiant vulnerability and cold vulnerability.A ranger with the dual strike ability can apply 2 sets of weapon properties, but only then weapons and not implements, and wizards are not rangers.</blockquote>

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