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<blockquote data-quote="Persiflage" data-source="post: 5279382" data-attributes="member: 73597">No, for two reasons.&nbsp; One is what Jhaelen said: an undead creature is not a valid target for the spell.&nbsp; The other is my opinion only, based on this:That's not what a normally-decayed corpse looks like without deliberately arranging matters that way (glowing red eyes being in any case quite hard to do with standard embalming processes).&nbsp; That's what you look like when you become a lich.&nbsp; It's part of the process and damn well ought to be a drawback.&nbsp; I say there's no way that a Gentle Repose spell can or should be able to counteract the violent physiological trauma associated with a deliberate transformation to the undead state.&nbsp; Anyway,&nbsp; you've got to be at least an 11th-level caster to pull this off, so resorting to Veil or similarly-powerful disguise magic ought to be an option for you.&nbsp; As a minimum, tinted glasses are going to be a necessity&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Why would you want to be a Lich anyway?&nbsp; You'll just get blown to shrapnel by a mid-level Radiant Servant of Do-Goodery by the end of your first week, and don't think that phylactery nonsense will save you.&nbsp; Ghosts have significantly greater amounts of awesome at the cost of +5 level adjustment instead of +4 for candy-ass liches.&nbsp; Get your back-story right as a ghost and it's nigh-impossible to put you down.&nbsp; Or Death Knights, they rock too (provided none of your party start making snide comments about Dragonlance).Liches were actually scary in 2e; now they're just easy XP for any cleric who's made even a moderate investment in their ability to turn undead. [ </blockquote>

[QUOTE="Persiflage, post: 5279382, member: 73597"] [COLOR=White]No, for two reasons. One is what Jhaelen said: an undead creature is not a valid target for the spell. The other is my opinion only, based on this: [/COLOR][COLOR=White] That's not what a normally-decayed corpse looks like without deliberately arranging matters that way (glowing red eyes being in any case quite hard to do with standard embalming processes). That's what you look like [I]when you become a lich[/I]. It's part of the process and damn well [I]ought[/I] to be a drawback. I say there's no way that a [I]Gentle Repose[/I] spell can or should be able to counteract the violent physiological trauma associated with a deliberate transformation to the undead state. Anyway, you've got to be at least an 11th-level caster to pull this off, so resorting to [I]Veil[/I] or similarly-powerful disguise magic ought to be an option for you. As a minimum, tinted glasses are going to be a necessity ;) Why would you want to be a Lich anyway? You'll just get blown to shrapnel by a mid-level Radiant Servant of Do-Goodery by the end of your first week, and don't think that phylactery nonsense will save you. Ghosts have significantly greater amounts of awesome at the cost of +5 level adjustment instead of +4 for candy-ass liches. Get your back-story right as a ghost and it's nigh-impossible to put you down. Or Death Knights, they rock too (provided none of your party start making snide comments about Dragonlance). Liches were actually scary in 2e; now they're just easy XP for any cleric who's made even a moderate investment in their ability to turn undead. [/COLOR][COLOR=White][COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri][ [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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