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can you weapon finesse a two handed double weapon?
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<blockquote data-quote="nute" data-source="post: 3400009" data-attributes="member: 10607"><p>As per the SRD:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So if you use Two-Weapon Fighting with the quarterstaff, only your added attack is with the off-hand side. Say both ends (A and B) have different properties. You have a +6/+1 BAB.</p><p></p><p>Regular attack: +6 with end A or B</p><p>Full attack: +6/+1 with end A or B, but both attacks must be with the same end.</p><p>Double-Weapon Full Attack (with TWF feat): +4 with end A (one-handed), +4 with End B (light weapon), -1 with end A (one-handed).</p><p></p><p><strong>EDIT</strong>: Following from this, let's take our fighter from the previous example. BAB of +6/+1, STR of 10, DEX of 18, Weapon Finesse, and Two-Weapon Fighting. Quarterstaff end A is cold iron, B is silver. </p><p></p><p>Regular Attack: +6 with end A or B. A quarterstaff is not finesseable in this use.</p><p>Full attack: +6/+1 with end A or B. Also, not finessable in this use.</p><p>Double Weapon Full Attack: +8 with End B, +4 with End A, -1 with End A. This is because the off-hand attack (End B) is the only light weapon being used, and thus the only one that benefits from Weapon Finesse. </p><p></p><p>Until you hit Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, you cannot get more than one attack with the finesseable end, no matter what you do <strong>UNLESS</strong> the off-hand end has the Speed enchant, which would allow it an extra attack at your highest BAB. In which case if End B has the Speed property, our fighter would attack at: +8 with end B, +8 with end B, +4 with end A, -1 with end A. </p><p></p><p>Which leads to another question - if you're using Two-Weapon fighting and BOTH weapons have the Speed enchant, you get <em>two</em> extra attacks, one with each? Dang, that could get abusive. No wonder it's so expensive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nute, post: 3400009, member: 10607"] As per the SRD: and So if you use Two-Weapon Fighting with the quarterstaff, only your added attack is with the off-hand side. Say both ends (A and B) have different properties. You have a +6/+1 BAB. Regular attack: +6 with end A or B Full attack: +6/+1 with end A or B, but both attacks must be with the same end. Double-Weapon Full Attack (with TWF feat): +4 with end A (one-handed), +4 with End B (light weapon), -1 with end A (one-handed). [b]EDIT[/b]: Following from this, let's take our fighter from the previous example. BAB of +6/+1, STR of 10, DEX of 18, Weapon Finesse, and Two-Weapon Fighting. Quarterstaff end A is cold iron, B is silver. Regular Attack: +6 with end A or B. A quarterstaff is not finesseable in this use. Full attack: +6/+1 with end A or B. Also, not finessable in this use. Double Weapon Full Attack: +8 with End B, +4 with End A, -1 with End A. This is because the off-hand attack (End B) is the only light weapon being used, and thus the only one that benefits from Weapon Finesse. Until you hit Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, you cannot get more than one attack with the finesseable end, no matter what you do [b]UNLESS[/b] the off-hand end has the Speed enchant, which would allow it an extra attack at your highest BAB. In which case if End B has the Speed property, our fighter would attack at: +8 with end B, +8 with end B, +4 with end A, -1 with end A. Which leads to another question - if you're using Two-Weapon fighting and BOTH weapons have the Speed enchant, you get [i]two[/i] extra attacks, one with each? Dang, that could get abusive. No wonder it's so expensive. [/QUOTE]
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