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<blockquote data-quote="0-hr" data-source="post: 1375969" data-attributes="member: 4734"><p>I just read over pg. 139 and didn't see anything about charging. I did notice this: </p><p></p><p><em>"With a ranged weapon, you can shoot or throw at any target that is within the weapon's maximum range and in line of sight."</em></p><p></p><p>That seems to indicate that you cannot shoot (or throw) at an invisible opponent. However, if you read on to pg. 152 you'll find this:</p><p></p><p><em>"You can't attack an opponent that has total concealment, though you can attack into a square that you think he occupies..."</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>But back to charging...</p><p></p><p>According to PHB pg.154, a charge is <em>"a special full-round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and attack during the action".</em></p><p></p><p>So there you go. You could use this "special full-round action" to move up to twice your speed and then attack into a square that you think your opponent occupies.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong> exept </strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>pg. 155 states very clearly</p><p></p><p><em>"If you don't have line of sight to the opponent at the start of your turn, you can't charge that opponent."</em></p><p></p><p>That is specifically under the rules for Charging and so supercedes any more generals rules stated elsewhere. If you are arguing that the general should trump the specific, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="0-hr, post: 1375969, member: 4734"] I just read over pg. 139 and didn't see anything about charging. I did notice this: [i]"With a ranged weapon, you can shoot or throw at any target that is within the weapon's maximum range and in line of sight."[/i] That seems to indicate that you cannot shoot (or throw) at an invisible opponent. However, if you read on to pg. 152 you'll find this: [i]"You can't attack an opponent that has total concealment, though you can attack into a square that you think he occupies..."[/i] But back to charging... According to PHB pg.154, a charge is [i]"a special full-round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and attack during the action".[/i] So there you go. You could use this "special full-round action" to move up to twice your speed and then attack into a square that you think your opponent occupies. [b] exept [/b] pg. 155 states very clearly [i]"If you don't have line of sight to the opponent at the start of your turn, you can't charge that opponent."[/i] That is specifically under the rules for Charging and so supercedes any more generals rules stated elsewhere. If you are arguing that the general should trump the specific, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. [/QUOTE]
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