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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7538755" data-attributes="member: 22779">Don't be obtuse.Any spell casting that is effectively at will for Xd8 (or so) damage is pew pew.&nbsp; I mean, again, what's the difference between what you do when you cast firebolt and what you do when you cast sacred flame?&nbsp; In both cases, you stand back, shoot the spell and deal the damage.&nbsp; Just like there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a longsword and a two handed sword.&nbsp; Yup, one does d8 and one does 2d6 and that's about it.&nbsp; One character using a longsword and one using a greatsword aren't really all that different are they?And before you get into class abilities and feats, note, NONE of that applies to cantrips.&nbsp; It's not like a cleric could choose a fighting style like a fighter can that applies to using cantrips.&nbsp; There are very few feats that apply to cantrips and those that do don't really change how the spell is used - either a straight up damage bonus or a range bonus.&nbsp; Whoopee.I don't think that clerics and druids should have cantrips that are more effective than their attacks.&nbsp; Again, what's the point of having weapons and armor if you never actually use them?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7538755, member: 22779"] Don't be obtuse. Any spell casting that is effectively at will for Xd8 (or so) damage is pew pew. I mean, again, what's the difference between what you do when you cast firebolt and what you do when you cast sacred flame? In both cases, you stand back, shoot the spell and deal the damage. Just like there really isn't a whole lot of difference between a longsword and a two handed sword. Yup, one does d8 and one does 2d6 and that's about it. One character using a longsword and one using a greatsword aren't really all that different are they? And before you get into class abilities and feats, note, NONE of that applies to cantrips. It's not like a cleric could choose a fighting style like a fighter can that applies to using cantrips. There are very few feats that apply to cantrips and those that do don't really change how the spell is used - either a straight up damage bonus or a range bonus. Whoopee. I don't think that clerics and druids should have cantrips that are more effective than their attacks. Again, what's the point of having weapons and armor if you never actually use them? [/QUOTE]

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