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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8240809" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>you might want to doublecheck your post <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/cantrip-nerf-house-rule-brainstorm.679235/post-8240576" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not saying that magewrights are unskilled laborers to say that magewright <em>includes <u>lower</u> </em>skilled trades. A farmer doesn't need to be "unskilled" to to have a lower skill barrier of entry into the job of being a farmer than transplant surgeon rocket scientist or even a nuclear power technician.</p><p></p><p> More relevant to <strong>your</strong> <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/cantrip-nerf-house-rule-brainstorm.679235/post-8240576" target="_blank">original</a> claim about training someone to "operate" a cannon in a couple weeks compared to not being able to do the same with a siege staff or similar because "Those are vastly more expensive, and becoming a magewright takes years of training." <em><span style="font-size: 9px">(yes those are both things <strong>you</strong> said and by saying them in the context you said them responding to other posts you implied things)</span></em>. You are comparing two wildly different levels of skill to make room for gunpowder cannons in advanced worlds like eberron. A soldier doesn't need to be a fully fledged bombardier magewright with years of training to smash a globe on a plate & do the things you spent a couple weeks learning to fire a siege staff in the right general direction any more than it's required for a similar level of proficiency with cannon operation.... both are likely to be a bad shot & maybe even maim the wrong people, but both are <u><em>similarly </em></u>skilled. A soldier might not even need a couple weeks to simply <em>fire</em> one of those if they've seen it done up close & feel like the risk of blowing themselves up is justified.</p><p></p><p>It's not reasonable to justify the existence of a cannon alongside things like siege staffs by comparing someone who can load it point it in the general direction & light the fuse after a couple weeks of training with a person who spends years of highly specialized training to operate arcane artillery with reliable precision. That's like comparing someone who completes a CPR course in a couple weeks to a lung transplant surgeon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8240809, member: 93670"] you might want to doublecheck your post [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/cantrip-nerf-house-rule-brainstorm.679235/post-8240576']here[/URL]. It's not saying that magewrights are unskilled laborers to say that magewright [I]includes [U]lower[/U] [/I]skilled trades. A farmer doesn't need to be "unskilled" to to have a lower skill barrier of entry into the job of being a farmer than transplant surgeon rocket scientist or even a nuclear power technician. More relevant to [B]your[/B] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/cantrip-nerf-house-rule-brainstorm.679235/post-8240576']original[/URL] claim about training someone to "operate" a cannon in a couple weeks compared to not being able to do the same with a siege staff or similar because "Those are vastly more expensive, and becoming a magewright takes years of training." [I][SIZE=1](yes those are both things [B]you[/B] said and by saying them in the context you said them responding to other posts you implied things)[/SIZE][/I]. You are comparing two wildly different levels of skill to make room for gunpowder cannons in advanced worlds like eberron. A soldier doesn't need to be a fully fledged bombardier magewright with years of training to smash a globe on a plate & do the things you spent a couple weeks learning to fire a siege staff in the right general direction any more than it's required for a similar level of proficiency with cannon operation.... both are likely to be a bad shot & maybe even maim the wrong people, but both are [U][I]similarly [/I][/U]skilled. A soldier might not even need a couple weeks to simply [I]fire[/I] one of those if they've seen it done up close & feel like the risk of blowing themselves up is justified. It's not reasonable to justify the existence of a cannon alongside things like siege staffs by comparing someone who can load it point it in the general direction & light the fuse after a couple weeks of training with a person who spends years of highly specialized training to operate arcane artillery with reliable precision. That's like comparing someone who completes a CPR course in a couple weeks to a lung transplant surgeon. [/QUOTE]
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