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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5941375" data-attributes="member: 1210">First of all, let's not have any game stuff that breaks immersion. The &quot;encounter&quot; is a highly artificial concept. I mean, how do you define an &quot;encounter&quot;?Let's say a party sneaks up on a pair of sentries at the entrance to a kobold lair and kills one but the other runs into the lair. The party immediately rushes after the survivor, only to screech to a halt when a portcullis falls. They move up and spend three rounds messing with the portcullis, but then more kobolds appear from a secret door and start throwing oil from the party's rear. The party turns to engage, but the kobolds slam the secret door. The party then spends three or four minutes finding and opening the secret door. When they open it and move past, they trigger a pit trap and the lead pc falls in, landing in a fast-moving stream and getting swept out of sight (and nearly drowned!). He ends up dragging himself onto a small islet about ten minutes later and has to fight his way through a pair of giant crabs.How many encounters is that for the guy that got swept away? Or let's say the party is traveling through exhausting swampy terrain. If they stop, they start to sink. They are moving for many hours without cease. Along the way, they fight some monsters three different times. No rest- is that one encounter or three?I say all this as a fan of 4e, too- and I initially really liked the per-encounter model. But I'd much rather have a &quot;per-minute&quot; or &quot;per-day&quot; model, because a minute or day has actual meaning to the character, rather than just the player. That's one of the things that spoils immersion in 4e, to my mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 5941375, member: 1210"] First of all, let's not have any game stuff that breaks immersion. The "encounter" is a highly artificial concept. I mean, how do you define an "encounter"? Let's say a party sneaks up on a pair of sentries at the entrance to a kobold lair and kills one but the other runs into the lair. The party immediately rushes after the survivor, only to screech to a halt when a portcullis falls. They move up and spend three rounds messing with the portcullis, but then more kobolds appear from a secret door and start throwing oil from the party's rear. The party turns to engage, but the kobolds slam the secret door. The party then spends three or four minutes finding and opening the secret door. When they open it and move past, they trigger a pit trap and the lead pc falls in, landing in a fast-moving stream and getting swept out of sight (and nearly drowned!). He ends up dragging himself onto a small islet about ten minutes later and has to fight his way through a pair of giant crabs. How many encounters is that for the guy that got swept away? Or let's say the party is traveling through exhausting swampy terrain. If they stop, they start to sink. They are moving for many hours without cease. Along the way, they fight some monsters three different times. No rest- is that one encounter or three? I say all this as a fan of 4e, too- and I initially really liked the per-encounter model. But I'd much rather have a "per-minute" or "per-day" model, because a minute or day has actual meaning to the character, rather than just the player. That's one of the things that spoils immersion in 4e, to my mind. [/QUOTE]

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