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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8104352" data-attributes="member: 6901101">From a conversational point of view, I would add things like magic missile are the same as being hit with a fist. A club can be the same as a shin kicking. And a crossbow that doesn't break chainmail (I know, it can, but if it doesn't) leaves the same bruise as a knee from a two hundred pound person landing on your chest. It really does depend on many variables: weapon type, armor, dodging or rolling with the blow, and speed of said objects at impact. I mean is a griffin talon more dangerous than a dagger? And doesn't a dagger plunge do just as much or more damage than a slicing two handed sword? And wouldn't the bite of a dragon kill even the hardiest of adventurers? Heck, the bite of a hippo would kill most adventurers under 10th level. And what about poison. I mean, getting bit by a cobra or black mamba could mean death, even to a 20th level wizard. What if five black mambas, three rattle snakes, and one constrictor who tied up his hands attacked? Pretty sure that amount of poison would kill almost all characters.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8104352, member: 6901101"] From a conversational point of view, I would add things like magic missile are the same as being hit with a fist. A club can be the same as a shin kicking. And a crossbow that doesn't break chainmail (I know, it can, but if it doesn't) leaves the same bruise as a knee from a two hundred pound person landing on your chest. It really does depend on many variables: weapon type, armor, dodging or rolling with the blow, and speed of said objects at impact. I mean is a griffin talon more dangerous than a dagger? And doesn't a dagger plunge do just as much or more damage than a slicing two handed sword? And wouldn't the bite of a dragon kill even the hardiest of adventurers? Heck, the bite of a hippo would kill most adventurers under 10th level. And what about poison. I mean, getting bit by a cobra or black mamba could mean death, even to a 20th level wizard. What if five black mambas, three rattle snakes, and one constrictor who tied up his hands attacked? Pretty sure that amount of poison would kill almost all characters. ;) [/QUOTE]

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