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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5104361" data-attributes="member: 54707">OIn my opinion he either has an ulterior motive (or set of them) for describing the Cylon construct in this way (after all, he is using self-contradictory terminology, in one instance he describes them as beyond intelligence and truly sentient, if I remember the description correctly, and at another as basically tireless mechanical slaves who should be forced to pursue a programmed existence), or it is further evidence of his basically corrupt nature.It maybe be both, but intuitively, and almost from the very beginning, his interactions with his daughter and his seemingly amoral attitude towards the various other events surrounding him (business and personal), have convinced me that there is far more to the man than is immediately obvious, and at least some of that submerged nature may be extremely corrupt. Or at the very least highly self-involved. (I know one additional piece of related information however, the wife was apparently physically pregnant with Zoe. The details of the pregnancy and conception are still unrelated and unexplained. It could be as normal, but I am suspicious, especially given the mythical and religious tie to the STO. In other words I do not believe the mythical and religious tie in to the girl is merely coincidental or incidental to her overall background, her nature, and the nature of her father who is both her creator - in one sense, and her "re-creator" in another, by placing the Avatar construct that Zoe reconstructed of herself into the shell of the Cylon machine construct. The ghost in the machine therefore has at least two co-creators, and perhaps more, and yet we don't really know how it was done in the first place. Yet apparently Graystone [the name itself may be a clue, and I like it to be] himself was capable of at least a similar feat with the Adama Avatar. Which I suspect means that we will have dueling natures within the Cylons themselves, because I can easily see the Adama game avatar being conscripted later for either Cylon use, or to help construct a Cyclon Artificial Intelligence Network which will help coordinate cylon revolt.)My first reaction seems to have been similar to yours in regards to the Cylon nature. The creation of such a "being," if it could be proven as more likely than not, would automatically preclude his stated designs for the Cylon and would lead to an automatic impulse on my part for equal rights for the thing and would serve as an impetus to establish a cooperative and mutually beneficial relationship between Man and Cylon. Enslavement I wouldn't want to wish on a sentient tree monkey, and in the long run slavery is a truly horrible, stupid, and counter-productive economic relationship, if that is your only real concern. It strikes me though that this is not Graystone's only concern. He has others.He strikes me as odd, and wrong, for several apparent, and some not so immediately apparent reasons. He smells funny to me (if he got within ten feet of me it'd be hard not to sniff him) and I find it hard to believe that none of the Dicks working his daughter's case haven't really been on him solid yet. Maybe they are and just aren't playing their hands yet, which is fine by me. I wouldn't play up front either. But I'd be at him with far more than search warrants for his daughter's room. I'd be surveilling him constantly and surreptitiously, washing through all of his beguines dealings, and if I could convince defense authorities of my theories, I'd have already planted a mole in his corporate operations. As a matter of fact if the girl isn't one already, then I'd try and discreetly turn her.The man bears watching. If for no other reason than the "coincidence" of his daughter's supposed involvement in a terrorist network while he is an active defense contractor. I've never liked coincidence, and this set-up hardly makes me want to take up liking it now.</blockquote>

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