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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7008169" data-attributes="member: 996">I'm with Hemlock in that chaotic isn't automatically bad.  Chaotics value personal freedom (CN's mainly their own, CG's definitely that of others, as well), personal freedom is hard to retain, so working with others is not out of the question.  So, sure, they can work with a group. Especially small ones.  Especially friends.  Especially without formal ranks or leadership.  Especially one that will help them gain/protect their own freedom and/or that of others.  All of which describes an adventuring party pretty well.And, yeah, they can be loyal.  Personally loyal, to a worthy individual, for as long as they stay worthy.  Sure.  Though 'loyal' may mean subtly, horribly, different things to them, those difference may never even come up.I'm not sure which is creepier.  That 3 out of 4 of those sound perfectly reasonable, or that (a different) 3 out of 4, sound like as fair descriptions of forumites in general, as of adventurers in general.I've never cared for the evil = selfish idea.  Sure, good can mean being selfless - so selfish is the opposite, right?  Nah, selfish is just the middle of the spectrum.  Good cares about others, neutral doesn't (without a reason)... Evil cares about others.  Really, Evil cares a lot, evil goes far out of it's way, often gets itself killed by Good, it cares so darn much about others.  Y'know, killing others, enslaving others, torturing others.  It's a very others-oriented perspective, Evil.  The really committed NE has to remember to make some 'me time' now and then, just to recharge the old batteries so he can get back to doing (horrible) things for (the suffering of) others.</blockquote>

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