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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xphile" data-source="post: 5032183" data-attributes="member: 86197">Carcassone - I'll first admit that I've only played this a few times.  The times I played with friends in person was fun, but the score keeping part of it always annoyed me.  For me, playing it online was actually more fun as it only left the game itself to enjoy.  While I did enjoy it, it isn't a game that is near the top of my "to buy" list.Munchkin - So I am definitely biased here.  I have started a munchkin cult with every group of friends I have.  Each group owns a different version of munchkin and I've played most of them.  I'm not sure what people define as "gamers" and why they believe that "those people" won't like it.  I've played munchkin with all kinds of people, from people who rarely game to those that play nothing but computer and board games in their spare time.  If you are a person who wants to do nothing but win at all costs... then yes, this will probably not be a game for you.  It is a very social game, as you make alliances and then stab those players in the back so that you can walk over their corpse and try to win.  There is plenty of luck involved, but anyone who looks at a card game and thinks that it is only luck hasn't played enough games like MTG.  The worst part of the game can be how it ends.  If everyone lets everyone else level up too much or if the cards at the end are all low level... it can create a very anti-climatic part of the game where three people all try to race for the win and no one has any cards to stop the fourth guy.  To a degree it is why I like some of the munchkin expansions that focus more on higher level encounters.  I've been tempted to modify my munchkin "deck" to be a bit more cut-throat and increase the chances that the big monsters come up.Sorry for the rant, but as the guy that hosts the monthly Munchkin games (which I mention to point out the fact that it does have longevity with it, with the right people), I had to step up and defend the game a bit.If anyone does get the game, I would recommend sticking with either the original game or munchkin cthulhu.  I really dislike super munchkin and the other variants I've played are okay, but those two are by far my favorite.</blockquote>

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