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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DemonLord57" data-source="post: 4330917" data-attributes="member: 71260">Yea, I was trying to come up with reasonable versions of Careful Attack/Sure Strike myself. Note, however, that the differences in the power between the at-wills is dependent on the weapon used and the attributes of the characters. For example, if you use two daggers with 18 Str for twin strike and reaping strike, you'll find that clearly reaping strike does more damage (at 50% hit chance, TS does 2.5 ADPR (average damage per round), and RS does 4.25).For further analysis: Assuming the best damaging weapons available immediately (2 1d10 weapons vs a maul), the ADPR would be: TS = 5.5, RS = 7.5. Of course, this is slightly unfair, as each damage boost to "damage rolls" affects TS doubly, and the enhancement boosts will increase damage on both attacks (though strength mod boosts make RS better, but not TS), not to mention that TS is a great minion killer. My main point from this analysis is simply that it's not that TS is "overpowered" in some way (though it is very good with focus), it just is useful in different ways, and responds better to "damage roll" boosts, which I think works as a striker power. It can get quite good, but I think that's okay, since you need to focus on the damage to do so (note: I didn't say "balanced". I do not have some strange idea that focusing on your damage will hurt your other areas in any significant way) Also, fighter powers in general suck... a lot. Actually, I think that defender powers might just be weaker in general than other classes' powers. Leader powers seem to give very nice bonuses, Striker powers seem to have nice side-effects, whether debuff or situational things like movement or not provoking, and Controller powers (only one so far, but still) seem to be very across the board, useful in multiple different situations depending on the situation (do you want push, slow, area burst, square blockage, or... boring damage), but Defender powers seem to be pretty simple and boring, barely a step up from basic attacks for the most part...Edit: Thinking about Careful Attack/Sure Strike. Having +4 to hit alone is still almost always worse than Twin Strike, rolling two dice and taking the better is very obviously strictly worse than TS, so I'm pretty sure that balancing it will involve adding damage to the attack, unless we make it basically an auto-hit attack. I think that something like +1/2 Str mod to attack and +Str mod to damage would be interesting, and great with some focus on Strength. +2 to attack on effectively a basic melee attack seems worth it to me, and when you increase your Str mod, it only gets better. It might even be competitive with TS, as it only gets better as you get more Str mod (similar to bonus to damage rolls). I don't think that a flat +2 bonus would be good enough, and a flat +4 bonus would be way too good.</blockquote>

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