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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6707187" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Hah, I'll have to do that. Aliens is a good comparison.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, monster CR calculations are based on an average of defensive CR and offensive CR.</p><p></p><p>The MM carrion crawler is CR 2. Its defensive CR is clearly 1/2 (hp 51, ac 13), so I'm guessing it's offensive CR was determined to be 3 by some combination of its DPR 11 and +8 tentacle attack with DC 13 save vs. poison/paralysis.</p><p></p><p>The carrion crawler queen I'm aiming to be about CR 3. Its defensive CR is clearly 1 (hp 76, ac 13). Which gives me an offensive CR of 5 to play with in monster design.</p><p></p><p>With its 5 tentacle attacks dealing 4.5 damage on average (and its bite of 7 damage), that's a potential DPR of 29.5 (CR 4), bumped up one CR due to a +8 attack modifier (CR 5).</p><p></p><p>The paralyzation ability should bump it up +1 or +2 CR more offensively.</p><p></p><p>However, consider that even with a large party no more than 3 or 4 characters are likely to be in melee with the queen. Also consider that the tentacle attacks are restricted to one per creature. So the queen probably won't get to use all those tentacle attacks, and thus its DPR (as well as the number of creatures it's potentially paralyzing will be less.</p><p></p><p>So I called it a break even, and left it at CR 5 offensively.</p><p></p><p>[CR 1 (defense) + CR 5 (offense)] / 2 = CR 3</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6707187, member: 20323"] Hah, I'll have to do that. Aliens is a good comparison. So, monster CR calculations are based on an average of defensive CR and offensive CR. The MM carrion crawler is CR 2. Its defensive CR is clearly 1/2 (hp 51, ac 13), so I'm guessing it's offensive CR was determined to be 3 by some combination of its DPR 11 and +8 tentacle attack with DC 13 save vs. poison/paralysis. The carrion crawler queen I'm aiming to be about CR 3. Its defensive CR is clearly 1 (hp 76, ac 13). Which gives me an offensive CR of 5 to play with in monster design. With its 5 tentacle attacks dealing 4.5 damage on average (and its bite of 7 damage), that's a potential DPR of 29.5 (CR 4), bumped up one CR due to a +8 attack modifier (CR 5). The paralyzation ability should bump it up +1 or +2 CR more offensively. However, consider that even with a large party no more than 3 or 4 characters are likely to be in melee with the queen. Also consider that the tentacle attacks are restricted to one per creature. So the queen probably won't get to use all those tentacle attacks, and thus its DPR (as well as the number of creatures it's potentially paralyzing will be less. So I called it a break even, and left it at CR 5 offensively. [CR 1 (defense) + CR 5 (offense)] / 2 = CR 3 Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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