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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 2646797" data-attributes="member: 2525">Umm, sorry, but the same wizard can cast a single empowered sorching ray, a 2nd level spell cast in a 4th level slot, for 84 points of damage.  Let me repeat...a 4TH LEVEL SLOT for a 15th level caster.  Heck, as an 8th level slot they can empower AND maximize it for ungodly amounts of damage, all as a touch attack.  Any save or die spell (such as even the lowly tasha's hideous laughter) could do it better.Tell me again how this is a great idea to be trying to hit people with your sword using a high level spell to polymorph and then cast yet another spell to hit someone with a weapon that had yet another spell cast on it plus you had to borrow or buy a magic item that is otherwise useless to you plus you had to take a feat that is otherwise useless to you and you had to have prerequisites for that feat that are sub-optimal as well.Seriously...if you are going to try and use this as a Gish example, it was a horrible example.  With normal out of the box players handbook spells you can be doing SO much more damage, at range, as a touch attack, without any magic items, suboptimal stats, or additional spells cast on you to prepare for it, than that example.  I'm sure someone can come up with a decent example to demonstrate an extremely limited but effective sub-tactic to make wraithstrike broken (like you can do with most spells), but that was not the example.</blockquote>

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