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<blockquote data-quote="Creat" data-source="post: 2026626" data-attributes="member: 15038"><p>Hey <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>How do you handle what information a caster has about a spell effect after/while casting? Does he - for example - know if a spell failed when the target succeeds at his save?</p><p>Right now I let casters know if a spell was successful (same with their enemies of course), but there are many levels to it and I would just like to hear how you think about it, how you handle it or just if all this is clearly stated in the rules somewhere (we use the 3.0 rules). I only recall a really vague description I think in the DMG somewhere, which doesn't actually help that much. I did look for an answer to this but couldn't come up with anything helpful (or even find that entry I think I recall), I just hope you guys either just know (since it's really an everyday issue) or can point me to where I need to look...</p><p></p><p>Now - after thats all cleared up - lets phrase it a little more concrete:</p><p>Does a caster generally know if a spell succeeds independant from spell, only with spells where he gets some direct form of feedback (Dominate person/monster, link is established) or visual feedback (fireball goes boom, intended target(s) is/are in flames)?</p><p>Does he know if a spell succeeds against a given target if the spell specifies creature (or some subform like humanoid) as for example with charm person or mass charm (same, just multiple targets)?</p><p>If he has to beat a spell resistance, does he notice that and if yes does he know if he succeeded? If he notices the SR does he know if his spell failed because of the SR or because of a successful save?</p><p>If a spell fails does he know the reason? Examples would be target is immune to magic in general/this spell (afaik this is equivalent to having unbeateable SR) or taget is standing in an anti magic field (many more examples are possible of course)</p><p></p><p>Right know I give them the visual feedback only on area spells, but they know when a spell targeting creature(s) was successful or not (and against whom it was successful if more than 1 target).</p><p></p><p>thanx alot for your time! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p>Creat</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Creat, post: 2026626, member: 15038"] Hey :) How do you handle what information a caster has about a spell effect after/while casting? Does he - for example - know if a spell failed when the target succeeds at his save? Right now I let casters know if a spell was successful (same with their enemies of course), but there are many levels to it and I would just like to hear how you think about it, how you handle it or just if all this is clearly stated in the rules somewhere (we use the 3.0 rules). I only recall a really vague description I think in the DMG somewhere, which doesn't actually help that much. I did look for an answer to this but couldn't come up with anything helpful (or even find that entry I think I recall), I just hope you guys either just know (since it's really an everyday issue) or can point me to where I need to look... Now - after thats all cleared up - lets phrase it a little more concrete: Does a caster generally know if a spell succeeds independant from spell, only with spells where he gets some direct form of feedback (Dominate person/monster, link is established) or visual feedback (fireball goes boom, intended target(s) is/are in flames)? Does he know if a spell succeeds against a given target if the spell specifies creature (or some subform like humanoid) as for example with charm person or mass charm (same, just multiple targets)? If he has to beat a spell resistance, does he notice that and if yes does he know if he succeeded? If he notices the SR does he know if his spell failed because of the SR or because of a successful save? If a spell fails does he know the reason? Examples would be target is immune to magic in general/this spell (afaik this is equivalent to having unbeateable SR) or taget is standing in an anti magic field (many more examples are possible of course) Right know I give them the visual feedback only on area spells, but they know when a spell targeting creature(s) was successful or not (and against whom it was successful if more than 1 target). thanx alot for your time! :cool: Creat [/QUOTE]
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