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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Creat" data-source="post: 2026822" data-attributes="member: 15038">Yes, but that's not what I'm looking for (or not how I understand this application of Spellcraft). To me this application of spellcraft allows someone to identify a spell that causes a certain effect. For example if someone walked into a room where a glitterdust spell is in effect (cast by someone before the newly entering spellcaster could see or hear him) he could make that check to identify the spell from its visible effects.I would not allow this check to find out if someone is charmed for example (without interaction I mean, of course). It would also not be possible to find out that someone has shield cast on him just by looking at him, because it has no visible effect (maybe after a few rounds when the character with the shield spell was the target of a few attacks).This only allows you to idetify the spell that belongs to an effect that you whitnessed, not lets you idetify (and detect) spells that you have either no knowledge of or that don't have obvious effects (you know your fireball worked when the creature caught in its blast radius starts burning, esp. if you have just cast the fireball)thank you anyway <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Creat</blockquote>