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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 911137" data-attributes="member: 3146">I don't know about that. In Living Greyhawk, PCs regularly face 200 hp elementals, advanced owlbears, advanced dire bears, advanced Athachs, etc, starting at level 8. Maybe that experience has skewed my perspective on&nbsp; monster hp (and outsiders, undead, etc certainly have fewer hp than animals, magical beasts, giants, abberations, etc).And IIRC from your story hour, the CR 23 Winterwight was going up against an 18th level party and was pretty much tearing them to shreds. Hadn't they gone four rounds or so with the Winterwight without being able to touch it when you rolled a &quot;1&quot; on the saving throw? It seems to me that there were really only two possibilities: the winterwight was going to go down like it did or the PCs were going down (except those who could teleport out). Anyway, that's the kind of situation that kills PCs all the time, (and talk to me about nerfing save or dies across the board if medusas, bodaks, etc have their abilities toned down). I don't see anything wrong with NPCs being vulnerable to it as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 911137, member: 3146"] I don't know about that. In Living Greyhawk, PCs regularly face 200 hp elementals, advanced owlbears, advanced dire bears, advanced Athachs, etc, starting at level 8. Maybe that experience has skewed my perspective on monster hp (and outsiders, undead, etc certainly have fewer hp than animals, magical beasts, giants, abberations, etc). And IIRC from your story hour, the CR 23 Winterwight was going up against an 18th level party and was pretty much tearing them to shreds. Hadn't they gone four rounds or so with the Winterwight without being able to touch it when you rolled a "1" on the saving throw? It seems to me that there were really only two possibilities: the winterwight was going to go down like it did or the PCs were going down (except those who could teleport out). Anyway, that's the kind of situation that kills PCs all the time, (and talk to me about nerfing save or dies across the board if medusas, bodaks, etc have their abilities toned down). I don't see anything wrong with NPCs being vulnerable to it as well. [/QUOTE]

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