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<blockquote data-quote="Cloudgatherer" data-source="post: 911230" data-attributes="member: 66">True, I ignored monster changes, but then again I was not taking them into consideration, only comparing the changes from 3.0 classes to 3.5 classes.&nbsp; Like I said before, I was summarizing based off of what we've seen, not the entire revised monster manual.For the sake of discussion, let us assume the above is true in regards to monsters.&nbsp; There are at least a few DMs who use NPC villains with levels in a character class.&nbsp; Also, when players go to make characters, especially those coming from the 3.0 system, they are going to see a lot of disadvantages in 3.5 as compared to 3.0 in regards to spellcasters.I'm not saying &quot;spellcasters got the shaft&quot; because I don't have the complete picture.&nbsp; Maybe they didn't, I don't know.&nbsp; However, I am raising the concern that the vast majority of information we have seen increases the class abilities of melee types, while spellcasters remain the same, but with &quot;reduced&quot; spells (which essentially is the class ability of spellcasters).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cloudgatherer, post: 911230, member: 66"] True, I ignored monster changes, but then again I was not taking them into consideration, only comparing the changes from 3.0 classes to 3.5 classes. Like I said before, I was summarizing based off of what we've seen, not the entire revised monster manual. For the sake of discussion, let us assume the above is true in regards to monsters. There are at least a few DMs who use NPC villains with levels in a character class. Also, when players go to make characters, especially those coming from the 3.0 system, they are going to see a lot of disadvantages in 3.5 as compared to 3.0 in regards to spellcasters. I'm not saying "spellcasters got the shaft" because I don't have the complete picture. Maybe they didn't, I don't know. [b]However[/b], I am raising the concern that the vast majority of information we have seen increases the class abilities of melee types, while spellcasters remain the same, but with "reduced" spells (which essentially is the class ability of spellcasters). [/QUOTE]

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