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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 912237" data-attributes="member: 3146">Of course the wizard dishes out his damage (except for the magic missile damage) to a whole area. However, he's only operating at that capacity for, at absolute most, 4 rounds per day (assuming a 20 int evoker, with quickened magic missile in every 5th level slot, fireball in every third level and half his 4th level slots). And then he's done. The Cleric can't enable him to do it again by using a wand of cure light wounds on him. Nothing will help except 8 hours of rest and a bit of preparation. So PC wizards can't afford to let loose than that very often.So, that's typically 52 points of damage to an area (assuming no elemental resistances or spell resistance) for four rounds a day. I don't see much problem with that. Wizards are supposed to be scary. If that wizard can, at best average 40 to 46 points of damage--assuming no evasion, SR, or elemental resistance--depending upon saving throws, he's not nearly as worrisome as the barbarian. Now, me, I think that wizards ought to be worrisome.I've also noticed that worrisome wizards aren't really any safer than worrisome barbarians. If a wizard tried the three spells per round blast-a-thon against the people I've played with, he'd be the recipient of a dispel magic or slow, an angry barbarian, and at least one readied action to disrupt his spell (or counterspell) before his next round. (And wizards are a lot less able to survive that kind of attention than the barbarian).If 3.5e is to "rely less on omnipresent and overpowered magic than 3e does" they ought to give the classes whose only abilities are obvious and "overpowered" magic something else if they don't want that to be a part of the game. High CR commoners with a few subtle and weak abilities aren't exactly attractive next to heroic fighters barbarians and rogues.</blockquote>

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