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<blockquote data-quote="Belen" data-source="post: 917156" data-attributes="member: 1405">After the events of my last session, I can honestly say that the casters WILL be nerfed in 3.5 just on the tidbits of info we have so far.Case in point: Clay Golems (11 HD creatures)- magic immunity.This weekend my group fought 4 clay golems.&nbsp; Now, the party is 12th level.&nbsp; Bard, Wizard, Blademaster, Monk.&nbsp; The wizard contributed a mass haste to the fight.&nbsp; Then promptly got one-rounded by the golem.&nbsp; (Note: You cannot heal damage from a clay golem without a cleric with the Heal spell.)&nbsp; The Bard ran away from the golem the entire combat as she had no magical blunt weapons.The fighter stood around and soaked up attacks.&nbsp; I say that he soaked up attacks because he only took 30 damage the entire fight (after dealing zero because he can only use a blade).&nbsp; The fighter has a 34 AC when on the defensive, so I had to roll a 20 for the golems to actually hit.Sooo...the hasted monk ran around doing flying kicks then full round actions.&nbsp; Yes, he partial charged every round to get his flying kick/ full round action.&nbsp; The monk defeated all 4 golems with 4 hitpoints to his name.&nbsp; Fighter- 100 hp left after combatMonk- 4 left, but he killed all 4 golems!Bard- Ran around calling encouragementWizard- deadHowever, in 3.5 the wizard cannot even mass haste the party.&nbsp; And clay golems are just immune to magic, so....SOL.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belen, post: 917156, member: 1405"] After the events of my last session, I can honestly say that the casters WILL be nerfed in 3.5 just on the tidbits of info we have so far. Case in point: Clay Golems (11 HD creatures)- magic immunity. This weekend my group fought 4 clay golems. Now, the party is 12th level. Bard, Wizard, Blademaster, Monk. The wizard contributed a mass haste to the fight. Then promptly got one-rounded by the golem. (Note: You cannot heal damage from a clay golem without a cleric with the Heal spell.) The Bard ran away from the golem the entire combat as she had no magical blunt weapons. The fighter stood around and soaked up attacks. I say that he soaked up attacks because he only took 30 damage the entire fight (after dealing zero because he can only use a blade). The fighter has a 34 AC when on the defensive, so I had to roll a 20 for the golems to actually hit. Sooo...the hasted monk ran around doing flying kicks then full round actions. Yes, he partial charged every round to get his flying kick/ full round action. The monk defeated all 4 golems with 4 hitpoints to his name. Fighter- 100 hp left after combat Monk- 4 left, but he killed all 4 golems! Bard- Ran around calling encouragement Wizard- dead However, in 3.5 the wizard cannot even mass haste the party. And clay golems are just immune to magic, so....SOL. [/QUOTE]

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