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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 921361" data-attributes="member: 3146">Right. I can see how these would be useful for NPCs. No problem there. But I don't think that giving NPCs spells that can screw the PCs for hours after the NPCs in question are dead and gone but don't do much to save the NPCs' lives are good things. Sunder and Mordenkeinen's disjunction were already fodder for DM cheesiness; why add more similar mechanics.The other problem is one that I see in a lot of the 3.5 revised spells: they seem to encourage mobility based tactics that are pretty boring. For instance, Waves of Fatigue to reduce the enemies' movement and take away their ability to charge, haste to increase yours, then just spring attack until they die. Or move and Manyshot. If they can't charge, they can't reach you; if they can't run, they probably can't get away. (Obviously these tactics won't work on creatures able to teleport, etc). To the extent that the 3.5e revisions open up new tactics to PCs and NPCs, so far they seem to be variants of the boring old zombie shooting gallery where PCs continually move back 30 feet each round and shoot and the zombies move forward thirty feet but never get to attack. When I'm the DM in such situations, I'm always tempted to say "OK, you win. Mark 25 arrows off all your character sheets and lets move on."So, to the degree that 3.5e spells are useful, they seem likely to make the game less fun rather than more fun.</blockquote>

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