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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8435651" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I'll echo Gammadoodler's concerns. This analysis is extremely abstracted. &quot;Change things,&quot; &quot;make things,&quot; and &quot;break things&quot; is about as pure-abstract as you can get without reducing to a single category, &quot;do things.&quot; However, addressing the more specific things...Healing is very difficult to access without magic. While there are limited sources of non-magical healing, you should not fall into the temptation to say that healing is equally distributed between the two. It emphatically is not, and this is a key point to remember going forward: not just WHETHER magical and mundane approaches exist, but which is easier or more effective or more reliable etc. If all you look at is whether the option exists, you will get an artificially inflated view of what non-casters can do.Knowledge/Perception: Don't forget that there are several things, usually but not always Spells Proper, which confer senses not available to non-magic-users. Those would technically be &quot;manipulation,&quot; e.g. detect magic allows you to &quot;see&quot; magic so it is technically just augmenting your abilities, but that is something a totally mundane person cannot emulate, no matter how hard they try.Most of the rest seems fine with a quick overview, just...again, keep in mind the qualitative differences, not just quantitative ones. Ease of use is often a huge distinction between magic and mundane: for many magic things, they just work, so long as you have the necessary resource, while for most mundane things, you have a chance to succeed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8435651, member: 6790260"] I'll echo Gammadoodler's concerns. This analysis is [I]extremely[/I] abstracted. "Change things," "make things," and "break things" is about as pure-abstract as you can get without reducing to a single category, "do things." However, addressing the more specific things... Healing is very difficult to access without magic. While there are [I]limited[/I] sources of non-magical healing, you should not fall into the temptation to say that healing is [I]equally[/I] distributed between the two. It emphatically is not, and this is a key point to remember going forward: not just WHETHER magical and mundane approaches exist, but which is [I]easier[/I] or [I]more effective[/I] or [I]more reliable[/I] etc. If all you look at is whether the option exists, you will get an artificially inflated view of what non-casters can do. Knowledge/Perception: Don't forget that there are several things, usually but not always Spells Proper, which confer senses not available to non-magic-users. Those would [I]technically[/I] be "manipulation," e.g. [I]detect magic[/I] allows you to "see" magic so it is [I]technically[/I] just augmenting your abilities, but that is something a totally mundane person cannot emulate, no matter how hard they try. Most of the rest seems fine with a quick overview, just...again, keep in mind the qualitative differences, not just quantitative ones. Ease of use is often a huge distinction between magic and mundane: for many magic things, they [I]just work[/I], so long as you have the necessary resource, while for most mundane things, you have a [I]chance[/I] to succeed. [/QUOTE]

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