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<blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 8485797" data-attributes="member: 6914290">Base Thor is probably a better comp than Thor+Mjolnir, but The Hulk might be even better. He is a leaping, punching, building destroying force of nature, and his &quot;only&quot; capabilities are that he is really strong and really durable.I can't think of anything in 5e that comes close to modeling this. Meanwhile, compare a high-level caster vs. say Dr. Strange and it's not that far off.Another alternative could be something like the wire-fu flying martial artists, hell, you could probably borrow a lot of the kinda out there physical capabilities from martial arts movies, anime, etc.At the end of the day, it's a fantasy RPG. You can say characters can do badass superhuman stuff because they just can. You don't need to rationalize it with some special access to external power or magic or whatever. I think this temptation to try and rationalize is kind of the source of the divide. You go..&quot;Well it's still just a dude with a sword. They can't possibly do xyz&quot; without even thinking about why that's true. Meanwhile, if you say.. &quot;It's a magic dude with a sword,&quot; suddenly the world of possibilities opens up. The thing is..these characters are equally imaginary..the only difference is what limitations you are willing to place on them based on a single descriptor.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gammadoodler, post: 8485797, member: 6914290"] Base Thor is probably a better comp than Thor+Mjolnir, but The Hulk might be even better. He is a leaping, punching, building destroying force of nature, and his "only" capabilities are that he is really strong and really durable. I can't think of anything in 5e that comes close to modeling this. Meanwhile, compare a high-level caster vs. say Dr. Strange and it's not that far off. Another alternative could be something like the wire-fu flying martial artists, hell, you could probably borrow a lot of the kinda out there physical capabilities from martial arts movies, anime, etc. At the end of the day, it's a fantasy RPG. You can say characters can do badass superhuman stuff because they just [I]can[/I]. You [I]don't need[/I] to rationalize it with some special access to external power or magic or whatever. I think this temptation to try and rationalize is kind of the source of the divide. You go.."Well it's still just a dude with a sword. They can't possibly do xyz" without even thinking about why that's true. Meanwhile, if you say.. "It's a magic dude with a sword," suddenly the world of possibilities opens up. The thing is..these characters are [I]equally imaginary[/I]..the only difference is what limitations you are willing to place on them based on a single descriptor. [/QUOTE]

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